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All Forum Posts by: Kelvin Lee

Kelvin Lee has started 15 posts and replied 66 times.

Post: How to cope with the high interest rate?

Kelvin LeePosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 68
  • Votes 24
Quote from @Travis Timmons:

I'm not sure where your property is located, but if it is in Portland, rents have increased dramatically over the last 2-5 years. We've seen it anecdotally in our property that we own there and in national stats. At one point in 2022, Redfin listed Portland as the highest year over year rent growth at 38%. 

Every property and situation is different, but if you have not been able to increase your rents over the last 2-3 years to compensate for an increase in interest rate of 260 basis points, then it was a bad deal from day 1 or not managed properly (not enough rent increases over time). 


I've been regularly consulting with realtors and mortgage brokers to assess our situation. It's clear that certain properties in our portfolio are outperforming others. As I mentioned in a previous post, the outlook in Portland is not particularly positive, especially for upper-middle-class renters, as many are leaving the city. There's been resistance to increasing rents this year, but there's a strong demand for fully equipped properties. Consequently, I've had to invest thousands in installing washers and dryers, along with new water and 220V lines to accommodate this demand.

Ultimately, the confluence of high-interest rates and the exodus of high-end renters who can support higher rental prices is putting significant pressure on our profit margins, property appreciation, and overall property values.

Post: How to cope with the high interest rate?

Kelvin LeePosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 68
  • Votes 24
Quote from @Michael Dumler:

@Kelvin Lee, I would recommend double-checking your market's rental rates. Hopefully, you have been increasing rent each year... If not, that's on you. 


Believe me, I've been pushing the rates as much as I can. The main drains on the cash flow are the turnover and the costs associated with renovating the property.

Post: How to cope with the high interest rate?

Kelvin LeePosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 68
  • Votes 24
Quote from @Jaron Walling:

@Kelvin Lee Are you already a full-time REI? If you don't have financial stability it's going to wear you down mentally. The answer to your question is asset specific. Assuming these are commercial properties on a 5-year terms I hope you bought it correctly 5 years ago. The NOI needs to support the higher rates.

I'm sure you're aware of this looming issue in commercial RE. Some players bought properties that can't support lower NOI and higher rates. When they refinance lenders will force them to inject $$$ into the property. Do you have the resources do that?? If these assets are in Portland selling would be MY LAST option. I hear it's a great market. The long term gains are worth the short term pain of less cash-flow.


Portland has recently gained national attention due to issues such as homelessness, drug problems, gun violence, and rising crime rates. In addition to these concerns, the implementation of new taxes for initiatives like 'Preschool for All' and 'Metro Supportive Homeless Services' has pushed Portland into one of the top three highest tax rates in the United States. As a result, many people, particularly those in the upper middle class, are choosing to leave the city. Similar to what has been observed in Seattle and San Francisco, property values in the core areas of Portland have plummeted.

The question now is, how long will it take for the city to recover? One potential starting point for this recovery is to address the influence of entrenched liberal ideologies and bureaucracy in city management and policy decisions. Once we tackle these issues, we can move forward with the revitalization process.

Post: How to cope with the high interest rate?

Kelvin LeePosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 68
  • Votes 24
Quote from @Eliott Elias:

If your deal only cash flows with a 3% interest-rate, you need to reconsider your investment strategy.

If your deal only cash flows with Airbnb, you need to reconsider your investment strategy.

Buying with a 20% cash on cash every month will keep you safe.


 It will still generation cash flow but will never as stellar as it used to. With these near doubled interest rate, the cash flow will be reduced closer to halve.  

Post: How to cope with the high interest rate?

Kelvin LeePosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 68
  • Votes 24

After enjoying 3.4% interest rate over the last five years, I'm now confronted with the challenge of managing a 6% interest rate in the coming year. This is a source of significant concern for me. Moreover, the rate of rent increases hasn't kept pace with these economic shifts. As a result, I'm left pondering how to adjust to this changing financial landscape. I'm considering whether it's wise to sell some of my assets or navigate a substantial reduction in cash flow. It might even be essential for me to explore full-time employment opportunities to ensure my financial stability.

Post: Real estate newbie looking at the Portland area

Kelvin LeePosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 68
  • Votes 24

I plan on doing 1031 exchange of my single family rental in PDX. I know I m not supposed to talk deals here so PM me if you are interested.

Post: Looking for an insurance company for multi-family apts.

Kelvin LeePosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 68
  • Votes 24

I have contacted both Farmer and American Family but the quote were too high for a 20 units. Any suggestion is appreciated.

Post: Why isn't my 5-plex in NE not getting offers?

Kelvin LeePosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 68
  • Votes 24

Physical condition, location, rental income and tenancy laws etc. I think the physical condition looks great. The location could be a draw back like the hi-way next to it without side walk, unpaved road etc. Can't comment on the rental income without any data like NOI, expenses etc. Small units could be hard to survive with rent control and the ever changing tenancy laws that 100% work against the property owner.

Post: Buy and Hold in Portland

Kelvin LeePosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 68
  • Votes 24

Let me ask you these fundamental questions before going further. Do you plan on self-managing the rental? If you want to buy within City of Portland area, do you familiar with the ever changing tenancy laws and the rent control in Oregon State? How many years of experience you have on real estate rental business? What is your exist strategy, for instance, 1031? 

Post: Forgiving Criminal History and Lower Security Deposit

Kelvin LeePosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 68
  • Votes 24

Screening Highlights

  • City criteria would broaden approvals for people with criminal backgrounds.
  • City to reduce income requirements from 3 times the rent to 2 times the rent.
  • City requirement to provide individual assessments will increase cost and likely require legal opinions for denials.
  • City to require a 3 day waiting period before anyone can apply once ads are live.


Deposit Highlights

  • City to limit maximum deposit to 1.5 month's rent. Currently no cap.
  • City to require landlords to accept deposit payments over up to 6 months. Currently paid in full at move-in.
  • City to limit the term "normal wear and tear" which will substantially reduce what you can charge for at move-out.
  • City to prohibit charges for cleaning at move-out.
  • Forced depreciation for property damage. The rate would be 3.6% per annum over 27 years.
  • Charges must include original receipts, depreciation schedules and photos, or are prohibited.
  • Additional requirements will increase cost.

If passed, will you relocate your equity out of City of Portland. Or will you see this as an opportunity to raise higher rent to overcome these new ordinances. In general, how do you cope with this ever changing ordinances?