Real estate newbie looking at the Portland area

Real estate newbie looking at the Portland area

New to Real Estate · Portland, OR · Member since 2020 · 3 posts · 5 votes

Hey Portland real estate crew! I'm a real estate newbie who is considering getting into real estate investing as an additional stream of income. COVID made me realize that no job is 100% secure and I'd like to have more options in the future. Plus, if I end up successful enough at it, I could cut back on my hours at work. 

I don't really know much about real estate investing yet, but reading BP and listening to the podcast has gotten me excited about it. I think I would like to focus on long term rentals, probably single family, with a primary goal of cash flow over appreciation (though both would be nice). Some day I might consider rehabing as part of the process, but I think I need some experience with the basics first. As Brandon frequently suggests, I was trying to analyze a bunch of deals to get used to the process and getting to know my local market. The problem is, I really can't find any single family homes in the greater Portland area that seem to cash flow on paper, and I'm beginning to wonder if it's even possible in this market. When I analyze properties in other markets, such as Dallas, it seems pretty easy to find a deal that is highly likely to cash flow. I may eventually consider investing in a long distance market, but I think I'd like to get my feet wet locally so I get comfortable with the process in a place where I have more resources and access.

Does anyone have any suggestions on what markets in the general Portland area can potentially provide cash flow through single family rentals? I am totally willing to look outside Portland proper, and might actually prefer something outside the city because it seems the regulations are a little more lenient outside of Multnomah county. I currently live in Lake Oswego, so areas to the South are more appealing to me just because of proximity. I'd probably be willing to look as far South as Salem for a starting point if that's what it takes. I don't plan on buying anything in the immediate future, but I'd like to practice analyzing deals in a market that I might ultimately invest in so I can use that familiarity to my advantage when the time comes. I don't have any connections to wholesale or anything like that, so I'd be basing everything off of MLS.

Thanks!

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Brad HammondBusiness Member
Real Estate Agent · Portland, OR · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 605 votes
5y

@Matthew Champion, Great advice above.  I would absolutely echo what @Tyler Combs said about Investor Lab.  I've been a member for a bunch of years and really value the education they provide.  A couple of other thoughts...

1. Look into duplexes, they cashflow better.

2. Also look into areas like Newberg and McMinnville. 

3. Real value is created through value add.  Any time you can increase rents, you will be handsomely rewarded.  

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  • Real Estate Investor · Portland, OR · Member since 2016 · 71 posts · 25 votes
    5y

    I plan on doing 1031 exchange of my single family rental in PDX. I know I m not supposed to talk deals here so PM me if you are interested.

  • AJ ShepardPro Member
    Real Estate Syndicator · Portland, OR · Member since 2014 · 453 posts · 312 votes
    5y

    @Matthew Champion

    Portland is a great area to invest in! Connecting with wholesalers in the area and attending meet ups is a great way to get plugged into the community.

    WIN is west side investors network in portland that has meetings monthly.

  • Real Estate Broker · Portland, OR · Member since 2019 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5y

    Go for something in Washington county.  Better incomes, jobs, growth and less crazy govt than in Portland proper.

  • Developer · Portland, OR · Member since 2015 · 67 posts · 61 votes
    5y

    I've been investing in Portland for years with that same goal of finding unique properties that offer both appreciation and cashflow.  The east side is typically going to give you more cash flow than west side because of lower property taxes.  Check out areas like Foster/Powell, Brooklyn, & Oregon City for some appreciating areas that still have low price points but can offer cash flow.  Investor Lab is another local PDX group that offers a lot of insight and resources for investors.  I live in Lake Oswego too and would be happy to grab coffee!  DM me if you want to chat!

  • New to Real Estate · Portland, OR · Member since 2020 · 3 posts · 5 votes
    5y

    @AJ Shepard, thanks for the suggestion, I'll look into WIN.

    @Tyler Combs, Oregon City was the only market that any of my deal analysis showed any promise at all, so I'll take a closer look. Thanks for the suggestions! I'll take a look at Investor Lab. And I'd love to grab a coffee sometime when it's socially acceptable again, and when I have a better grasp on this stuff to make better use of your time.

  • Rental Property Investor · Portland OR · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    5y

    Welcome! You might look in Vancouver.....  its a little more affordable than PDX 

  • Real Estate Broker · Portland, OR · Member since 2019 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Mary M.:

    Welcome! You might look in Vancouver.....  its a little more affordable than PDX 

    Not anymore.  Vancouver is going up in price because it's not Portland.

  • Brad HammondBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Portland, OR · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 605 votes
    5y

    @Matthew Champion, Great advice above.  I would absolutely echo what @Tyler Combs said about Investor Lab.  I've been a member for a bunch of years and really value the education they provide.  A couple of other thoughts...

    1. Look into duplexes, they cashflow better.

    2. Also look into areas like Newberg and McMinnville. 

    3. Real value is created through value add.  Any time you can increase rents, you will be handsomely rewarded.  

  • Grant SchroederPro Member
    Lender · OR ID AZ CA WA CO NV TN MT · Member since 2018 · 599 posts · 312 votes
    5y

    @Matthew Champion Definitely check out Investor Lab & the Newberg / McMinnville area as @Brad Hammond and @Tyler Combs have suggested. If you have any questions about the lending side or Newberg/McMinnville, please feel free to message me. I am happy to help! I own several rentals here in Newberg and it has been a great location to invest in the past 6-7 years.

  • New to Real Estate · Portland, OR · Member since 2020 · 3 posts · 5 votes
    5y

    @Brad Hammond Thanks for the suggestions! I had considered multifamily, but haven't seen many on the market through my MLS searches. I've also read that you can expect higher quality tenants in a single family property, which appeals to me to some degree. I'll check out Newberg and McMinnville as a potential target. Going with a value add property certainly seems like the most promising route, but I know nothing about estimating the price of a rehab or an after repair value, so I have a lot to learn about that before I would feel ready to go that route. Perhaps once I have gotten my feet wet a bit...

  • Real Estate Agent · Lake Oswego, OR · Member since 2020 · 1 post · 0 votes
    5y

    @Matthew Champion get "The Book on Estimating Rehab Costs" (revised edition) by J. Scott. You won't be able to estimate exactly but it should give you a pretty good ballpark for estimating rehab costs.

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