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All Forum Posts by: Keith Doe

Keith Doe has started 9 posts and replied 23 times.

Post: Cleveland Rental Needs Work - Ideas on path forward?

Keith DoePosted
  • Germantown, MD
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 6

Hey everyone, I am currently working on purchasing my first rental property, which is also out of state (I live in Maryland). I have identified a duplex in Cleveland listed at $79,900, and has one long term tenant, and the upstairs unit has recently been vacated. It has gone through three price drops from 99k - 89k - 79.9k

This property was under contract back in April/May of this year, but the buyer backed out (when it was listed at 89k and was fully occupied.) 

From pictures that my agent sent (vacant unit), and walk through video of the occupied unit from the listing agent, I did not see anything besides touch up in vacant unit, and possibly replacing front porch steps. I offered $75k with inspection contingency. The listing agent came back with the inspection report from the previous purchaser from May, and asked if I could use that and remove the contingency.

As I read through the report, it became apparent why the buyer backed out

-Loose vinyl siding with potential animals living inside, caulk/sealant missing from trim on doors, moisture intrusion on windows with soft spots and exterior cladding loose, shingles missing from roof with light visible from the attic, cracked floor joists, first floor uneven with large slopes (you could skydive off the leveler before you hit the ground), uneven stairs, signs of inward movement on the foundation with masonry recommendation, active leak in basement pipe.

I'm trying to be creative in making this work. I obviously would need multiple contractor bids for pricing, and then would need to adjust the price down from there.

The long term downstairs tenant is paying $750 and upstairs was paying $800

Is this deal even still worth it? 

Thanks!

Post: Cleveland rental $85k and under

Keith DoePosted
  • Germantown, MD
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 6

@Nicholas Salman Thank you! I just sent you a connect request with message.

Post: Cleveland rental $85k and under

Keith DoePosted
  • Germantown, MD
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 6

@Bob Okenwa ok thanks for that map. I will comb that over and see what I can make of it and circle back with my agent. 

Yes you are right on the interest rates changing and ARVs. I will see if SFR will be of any luck to me

Post: Cleveland rental $85k and under

Keith DoePosted
  • Germantown, MD
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 6
Quote from @Shane Kelly:

You will have a hard time finding exactly what you have described here unless it's in a really rough area. A near turnkey multifamily property under $85k that cashflows $200 a door is a hot commodity. The reason you haven't been sent many of these by your agent is likely because there are almost no multifamilies on the market, and the ones that there are aren't exactly good deals or in nice neighborhoods. If you're not looking to househack, I suggest you open up to SFRs. Best of luck.

Ok are you suggesting a slightly lower barrier to entry for SFR based on what I am looking for?

Post: Cleveland rental $85k and under

Keith DoePosted
  • Germantown, MD
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 6
Quote from @Bob Okenwa:

@Keith Doe

Am I being too strict? Yes you are being too strict. If you want a duplex with light to no rehab, it'll cost closer to 120k

Is my price point too low? See point #1.

Turnkey costs money so you'll be paying at or slightly above market rates to get everything on your wish list in an area you'd be comfortable investing in.


Ok so I am thinking a few option be to BRRRR, go to SFR, or increase my cash on hand?

Post: Cleveland rental $85k and under

Keith DoePosted
  • Germantown, MD
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 6

Hi, I was recently approved for $85k in Cleveland. My criteria for a buy are: duplex to quad, preferably tenants in place, light to no rehab, cash flow $200/door after mortgage and 30% for future repairs. 

My agent has only been able to send me one opportunity but it was a pass as there would be more rehab than I would want on my first deal. Two properties I have sent him resulted in him saying one was in a bad area, and the other had a buyer back out after a bad inspection report. 

Am I being too strict in what I am looking  for? Is my price point too low? 

Thanks!

Originally posted by @Russell Brazil:

Try @Marc M. at Trius lending

Thank you! I will reach out 

Originally posted by @Reid Chauvin:

What types of properties are these? 1-unit residentials, condos, etc..?

Looking at single family/townhomes mostly, but really want to find some multi units

Hi all,

Shopping around for rates, and have gotten back interest rates around 8% from two lenders. Does anyone have someone they would recommend in a lender for sub 100k properties in Maryland?


Thanks in advance!

Post: Interest Rate on Sub 80k Property

Keith DoePosted
  • Germantown, MD
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Joshua Janus:

Something appears to be off with that high of an APR in relation to the interest rate. Do you have a low Fico combined with the lowest down payment possible?
A townhome that cheap should cash flow and shouldn't be too difficult to beat the One Percent Rule. 

-Josh

Thanks, Josh. In line with what my cousin and I are thinking. He has a score around  740, and we are bringing 20% down. Lender has 8% closing, and also quoted mortgage at 525$/m