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All Forum Posts by: Katie Douglas

Katie Douglas has started 3 posts and replied 36 times.

Post: Frustrated with Bigger Pocket Posts

Katie DouglasPosted
  • Morris, IL
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 9

@Jedd Braunwarth

 Thank you for sharing your story. These real life examples are way more interesting to me because they reflect how most people actually live and how they can still accomplish their goals. 

Post: Frustrated with Bigger Pocket Posts

Katie DouglasPosted
  • Morris, IL
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 9

@Account Closed

I think you misunderstand me. My husband and I are highly motivated and we are working on our personal finances so that we are in a position to have several investment properties in the coming years, but we are also mobile professionals on an upward trajectory in our careers. Motivation is not the issue. What I was trying to say is that in order to accomplish the things that people are saying in the posts relies on certain assumptions about the readers. You went to a prestigious university, were in the military, and had a 401k that had enough money in it to cash it out by 26- you are an outlier. You are definitely an inspiration, but please don't pretend that every other 20 something getting started in real estate is like you. Also, most people are married by 30 and smarter more educated people are more likely to be the ones to be married- and they are richer for it. We earn above the median income for the US. The point is that there are many issues that young people face that are realistic barriers and the articles should point it out or list out the assumptions they have about the lives of their readers. It doesn't mean the advice is bad it just means it is not exactly actionable for many people and can come across as gimmicky. 

Post: Frustrated with Bigger Pocket Posts

Katie DouglasPosted
  • Morris, IL
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 9

Hello, I'm a newbie and this is my first post on Bigger Pockets although I have lurked here for several years. While I have been able to find invaluable information on this site, I find many of the posts (especially in the newsletters) to be frustrating because they sound a bit like internet marketing/motivational speak with little realistic or actionable advice although they are supposedly targeted towards young professionals. They tend to underestimate costs/skills needed/and timelines that many people have.

For example, my husband and I are a young professional couple in our mid-twenties. Many of the articles directed at our age group fail to address the following:

- many young people out of college do not have high incomes (median net compensation for individuals in 2013 is about $28k per year) http://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/central.html; http://time.com/money/3829776/heres-what-the-avera...

- record high student loan debt (average amount of debt for individuals is $26,500 for 2011 graduates) http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/18/education/report...

- most people are married and/or have children by age 30 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/22/marriage-... http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db19.htm; http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/births.htm; http://www.infoplease.com/spot/momcensus1.html)

- The median American household owes $3,300 of consumer debt (http://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/credit-card-data/av...)

- if you do have a professional job you will probably have to purchase a professional wardrobe (in our case we needed new clothes that were appropriate for cold winters)

- you will probably have to move to where jobs/graduate programs are (moving costs plus potential increase in the COL; see note on buying winter wardrobe)

- increasing rents (http://www.deptofnumbers.com/rent/us/)

-record high prices for cars (http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2013/09/0...) average price is $31k for new car and slightly used cars are only a few thousand dollars less); most households in the US need at least one car and if you were lucky enough to have one in high school it is probably starting to get old and have expensive maintenance issues by the time you are a young professional.

-record number of people in graduate school (http://www.census.gov/hhes/socdemo/education/data/...) poverty level pay and long hours that discourage people from working a second job during this time

- housing is expensive (down payment plus transaction costs- why do so many posts fail to go into detail about these? My husband and I wanted to purchase the condo we are renting- at a modest price- but the transaction costs doubled the cost of purchasing and we would have only saved $180 per month over the cost of renting. We decided it was better to pay down debt and move to a better location in a couple of years.)

- house hacking; there are not likely very many multi-family units in many towns and if there are they are probably expensive and in undesirable/dangerous parts of town

I am not trying to discredit the usefulness of this site or of investing in real estate. But many of the posts I have read come down to: either the OP majored in a related field in college and worked with other professionals shortly thereafter, had a much higher than average income starting out of college, or had their parents pay for college/weddings/ first mortgages, or the OP is not really young and is already a professional who is looking back at what they wish they did when they were younger (when they had no networks or money).

I think more accurate advice for 20 somethings would be:

- work on increasing your knowledge and income (try to find and fill your skill deficits so that you can be useful to others in the industry and make money; here is something that might be useful: http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/negotiation...)

- work on your people and organizational skills

- get your personal finances in shape

- set a realistic time frame for investing (it might take several years to be ready)

- work on getting your SO on board

- build a network of colleagues that you can call on later

- don't buy stupid motivational business books to learn, buy books that focus on specific skills and that have case studies

OR

- have access to specialized knowledge. a large amount of capital, and a professional network, already

- have access to people with those things

Many people go through seismic changes in their lives during their twenties that are not accounted for in these posts. The over simplistic messages I think overshadow the usefulness of the posts. Young professionals don

Thank you @Pablo Pereyra and @Dave T! You answered my questions. I was mostly wondering about insurance and other protections for an individual managing a property. Other posts on the forums seem to talk about possibly using an LLC, but I wasn't sure if that was possible if the owner lived on the property.

Thanks!

Hello!

I am new to the group but have been lurking for a while. My fiance and I are planning on purchasing a four-plex sometime in the future as our first property. We plan to live in one unit and rent out the others. I've read various things on the forums about legal protections for landlords, but are there specific things we should prepare for if we live in one of the units? It seems like various legal structures and policies for landlords are geared more towards businesses that own properties. 


Thank you!

Post: Looking for the name of a term

Katie DouglasPosted
  • Morris, IL
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 9

Hello!

I'm new to the forums for this website, but I've been a lurker for a while. I've been researching ways to become involved in real estate investing, and I have forgotten the term for one of the strategies. What is the term used to describe when a real estate investor finds a property and enters into a contract with the seller with a possible purchase price, but the buyer has time to decide if they want to purchase the property? I think usually the buyer then flips the property to another buyer for more money, but keeps the difference?

Thank you!