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All Forum Posts by: KC Pake

KC Pake has started 17 posts and replied 166 times.

Post: First primary rental

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Quote from @John Marlin:

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $132,000
Cash invested: $13,000

I bought this single family home in 2019 in Waxahachie, TX as a primary residence. Deal was on MLS. Purchased for $102k, on a construction loan with a 30k budget to remodel, for a total of $132k. Put 10% down. Finished the remodel, and it appraised for $170k. I refinanced with the same bank, and was able to pull back out my full down payment. Lived there for 3 years, and moved on to another live-in BRRRR type deal I'm in. This house rents now for $2,000/month, and is valued above $250k.

John,

Congratulations on your successful investment in Waxahachie! It sounds like you've made a savvy move with the purchase and remodel of your single-family home. The fact that you were able to refinance and recoup your down payment is particularly impressive. It's great to hear that the property is not only generating a solid rental income but has also appreciated significantly in value. Your strategy of living in the property while remodeling and then moving on to another project is a smart way to maximize your investments. Keep up the great work and best of luck with your current and future endeavors in real estate!

Post: Crazy Idea to get started. What do you think?

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Quote from @Sarah Moore:

Hi guys. I'm looking to break into my local market of Central Maine. While I'm on the lookout for my first deal I've been building a small network. It sounds like there's a bit of a vacuum in reliable local property managers.

I was originally thinking of setting up a property management company to take care of the properties that my partner and I purchase. However, now I wonder if it might be a good idea to set up the property management company first to take on local clients and propel us into the space faster. Thoughts? 

Hi Sarah!

It's great to hear about your plans to enter the Central Maine real estate market. Considering the vacuum in reliable local property management, starting your property management company could indeed be a strategic move. Here are some pros and cons to consider:

Pros:

Building Relationships: Managing properties for others can help you build a robust local network. This can lead to more opportunities and partnerships.
Market Understanding: As a property manager, you'll gain a deeper understanding of the local market, which can be invaluable when you start acquiring your own properties.
Steady Income Stream: Property management can provide a consistent income, which can be particularly beneficial in the early stages of your real estate venture.
Skill Development: You'll develop a range of skills from customer service to maintenance oversight, which are crucial for successful property ownership.
Brand Recognition: Establishing a presence as a reliable property management company can boost your reputation, making it easier to attract tenants and investors when you start acquiring properties.

Cons:

Time Commitment: Property management can be time-consuming, especially if you're dealing with multiple properties or demanding clients.
Regulatory Compliance: Staying compliant with local laws and regulations requires diligence and can be complex.
Conflict Resolution: Dealing with tenant issues and conflicts is an inevitable part of property management and can sometimes be challenging.
Financial Risk: There are financial risks involved, including late payments or damage to properties.
Market Fluctuations: The property market can be unpredictable, affecting both rental income and property values.

Overall, starting with a property management company can be a smart way to enter the real estate space, especially in an area with a clear need for such services. It offers a learning curve that prepares you for your own property investments and builds a brand that people trust. Just be mindful of the demands and challenges it entails.

Best of luck with your venture! Remember, every challenge is an opportunity to learn and grow.

Post: Thoughts To Get The Creative Wheels Spinning; Under-The-Radar Real Estate Strategies

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Discussing under-the-radar real estate investment strategies can provide unique insights into the market.  I am looking for other "lesser known" real estate investments that you have experience with.  Below is a short list of ten strategies, please add on......

Micro-Flipping: Unlike traditional flipping, micro-flipping involves buying properties at a market rate and selling them quickly with minimal or no renovations. The key here is to find undervalued properties in high-demand areas and leverage technology for rapid transactions.

Live-In Flip: This strategy involves purchasing a property, living in it while renovating it, and then selling it for a profit. Living in the property can potentially qualify you for certain tax exemptions on capital gains.

House Hacking: This involves buying a multi-unit property, living in one unit, and renting out the others. The rental income can cover the mortgage and operating expenses, potentially allowing you to live for free or at a reduced cost.

Vacation Rentals in Emerging Locations: Instead of investing in popular tourist destinations, some investors focus on emerging locations. These areas often have lower property prices but potential for significant tourism growth.

Rent-to-Own Investments: Offering a rent-to-own option can be attractive in markets where many people cannot secure traditional financing. It allows you to secure a higher rent and potentially sell the property at a premium.

Investing in Niche Properties: This can include unique property types like tiny homes, mixed-use buildings, or historic properties. These niches often have less competition and can offer higher returns if managed well.

Land Banking: Purchasing undeveloped land in the path of future growth and holding it until its value increases can be a long-term but potentially lucrative strategy.

Tax Lien Investments: Buying tax lien certificates offers a way to earn interest or potentially acquire property at a fraction of its value. However, this strategy requires a thorough understanding of local laws and risks.

Opportunity Zone Investments: Investing in designated opportunity zones can offer tax benefits. These areas are identified by the government as needing economic investment.

Real Estate Crowdfunding: This allows investors to pool their money to invest in larger projects than they could afford individually. It's a way to diversify real estate investments with potentially lower capital requirements.

Looking forward to your insights!
KC

Post: seller financing with a duplex that needs work

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Quote from @Nolan Mahoney:

I came across this dupelx that the seller preferes owner financing. The property is going to need work in the 1st unit and some exterior aswell. for example on the interior it will need (from what i can see on MLS) is Drywall celing, new stove and a new door and the miscellaneous. As for the out side it will need some chimney work, aslo looks like a crack in the foundation and some paint.

How would these repairs go with seller financing? Who would pay? If there are any books you could recomend or any advice would be great, thanks!

Hi Nolan,

When considering a duplex with seller financing, especially one that requires repairs, it's important to understand how these repairs might be handled financially and logistically. Here's a breakdown of key considerations and some advice, including book recommendations:

Understanding Seller Financing

Seller Financing Basics: Seller financing means the seller of the property acts as the lender. The buyer makes payments to the seller instead of a bank.

Contract Terms: The terms of who pays for repairs can be negotiated and should be clearly outlined in the financing agreement.

Handling Repairs in Seller Financing

Negotiation: Before agreeing to seller financing, negotiate who will be responsible for repairs. This can be the seller, the buyer, or a shared responsibility.

Escrow for Repairs: Sometimes, a portion of the purchase price can be held in escrow to cover repair costs. This needs to be agreed upon before closing the deal.

Inspection and Estimates: Get a professional inspection to identify all needed repairs. Also, obtain estimates for the repair work, which can be used in negotiations.

Who Pays for Repairs?

Seller's Responsibility: Sometimes, the seller may agree to handle certain repairs before the sale.

Buyer's Responsibility: In other cases, the buyer might take on the responsibility, often in exchange for a lower purchase price.

Shared Costs: There can also be an arrangement where both parties share the costs of repairs.

Recommendations for Further Reading

Real Estate Investment Books: Look for books that focus on real estate investments, especially those dealing with property repairs and seller financing. Some titles to consider are:

"The Book on Investing in Real Estate with No (and Low) Money Down" by Brandon Turner
"The Millionaire Real Estate Investor" by Gary Keller
"Investing in Duplexes, Triplexes, and Quads" by Larry B. Loftis

Home Repair Guides: Books on home repairs can help understand the scope and cost of the work needed. Consider titles like "The Complete Do-It-Yourself Manual" by Family Handyman.

Legal and Financial Advice: For the legal and financial intricacies of seller financing, consult with a real estate attorney and a financial advisor.

Final Advice

Due Diligence: Always do your due diligence. This includes a thorough inspection of the property and a clear understanding of the financial implications.

Professional Guidance: Consider hiring a real estate agent experienced in seller-financed deals and consult with legal and financial experts.

Negotiation Skills: Be prepared to negotiate terms that are favorable and realistic, considering the property's condition.

Happy Investing,
KC

Post: 1st Land Flip Question

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Quote from @Tamyia Davis:

I am contracting with a seller and am trying to understand my options on the close for my first land deal.  I am considering a buy and hold or a flip.  If I buy and hold it would be considerably less than if I flip it. I am looking to buy more land in the area so am concerned if I purchase much lower than if I flip it, that I would be shooting myself in the foot for other purchases in the area.  I'm not trying to drive the market down for myself on other potential flips. Am I viewing this correctly or is there a way to do this that I might be missing?

Hi Tamyia,

Your situation presents a common dilemma in real estate investing: deciding between a buy-and-hold strategy versus flipping, especially when considering the potential impact on future land purchases in the same area. Here are some points to consider:

Market Impact: If you purchase land at a considerably lower price and this becomes known in the market, it could indeed influence the perception of land value in that area. This might make future acquisitions more challenging, as sellers may be reluctant to go below the precedent you've set. However, real estate markets are influenced by a multitude of factors, and a single transaction rarely dictates market trends.

Buy and Hold Pros and Cons:

Pros: Long-term appreciation, potential for rental income (if applicable), less transactional costs compared to flipping.
Cons: Requires ongoing management and maintenance, capital is tied up for a longer period, and you may face risks related to market fluctuations.

Flipping Pros and Cons:

Pros: Potential for a quick profit, shorter-term commitment, and opportunity to reinvest capital in new projects.
Cons: Higher transactional costs, requires accurate budgeting for renovations or improvements, market timing risks.

Future Deals Consideration: If you're planning to be an active investor in the area, building a good reputation with local sellers and agents is crucial. Consistently seeking below-market deals might limit your opportunities, as sellers might prefer to deal with investors who offer more competitive prices.

Strategic Purchase Price: You might consider a balanced approach where you purchase the land at a fair market value, reflecting both its current worth and potential for appreciation. This approach could help maintain the market's integrity and your reputation as a fair investor.

Long-Term Vision: Align your decision with your long-term investment goals. If your objective is to build a portfolio in the area, a buy-and-hold strategy might be more beneficial in the long run. However, if your goal is to generate quick capital for other investments, flipping could be more appropriate.

Diversification: If feasible, you might also consider diversifying your investment strategies - some properties could be for flipping, while others could be held for longer-term gains.

All the best,
KC

Post: Owner Financing and Taking back 2nd mortgage

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Quote from @Kaleb R.:

Hello Everyone,

I hope everyone is well this morning. I'm taking an online class and the subject today is Owner financing. I have a question in regards to carrying back a second mortgage when owner financing. The material gave an example of when the buyer down the road defaults on the senior mortgage, would the seller be able to foreclose. The instructor states you should not foreclose because of the time involved but instead buy back the property just for the LTV of their bank loan, 80%, and you should resell it to a new buyer. The buyer could only get approved for 80% LTV of the property and the seller agrees to finance the remaining 20%. From my understanding there is the Due on Sale Clause so which means the senior mortgage would have been already paid off, so how would the buyer be behind on the senior mortgage in the first place? I hope I worded this question so that it makes sense. Please any information would be appreciated. I'm just now taking the steps to become an educated investor.

Hello Kaleb,

Your question about owner financing and the situation involving a second mortgage in the case of a default is quite insightful. Let's break down the components to clarify the scenario and address your thoughts:

Owner Financing and Second Mortgages: In owner financing, the seller of the property acts as the lender, providing a mortgage to the buyer. This arrangement often occurs when the buyer cannot obtain a mortgage from a traditional lender. If the seller is carrying back a second mortgage, it means the buyer has two mortgages: the primary (senior) mortgage, typically with a bank, and the secondary (junior) mortgage with the seller.

Default on the Senior Mortgage: In the example you provided, the buyer defaults on the senior mortgage. This could happen for various reasons, such as financial hardship, even if they are still paying the second mortgage to the seller. The Due on Sale Clause you mentioned is a provision in a mortgage or deed of trust that requires the borrower to pay the remaining balance of the loan in full if the property is sold or transferred. However, this clause is usually triggered by the sale or transfer of the property, not necessarily by default.

Seller’s Response to Default: Your instructor suggests that instead of the seller foreclosing on the property (which is a time-consuming legal process), they should buy back the property for the Loan-to-Value (LTV) ratio of the bank loan (80%). This implies that the seller would pay off the bank loan, essentially buying the property back from the bank.

Reselling the Property: After buying back the property, the seller could then resell it to a new buyer, possibly offering owner financing again. In this scenario, the new buyer gets a bank loan for 80% LTV, and the seller finances the remaining 20%.

Clarification on Due on Sale and Default: The confusion seems to arise from the interaction between the Due on Sale Clause and a default. The clause does not automatically pay off the senior mortgage; it can be triggered if the property is transferred or sold. In a default situation, the senior lender (the bank) has the right to foreclose on the property, but the clause itself doesn't pay off the loan.

Seller's Strategy: The strategy suggested by your instructor is a way for the seller to regain control of the property without going through foreclosure. By paying off the bank loan, the seller can avoid the lengthy and costly foreclosure process and can quickly resell the property, potentially to a more financially stable buyer.

Hope this helps, and I hope I understood your questions/concerns.

Good luck with your class,
KC

Post: Ready to purchase first investment property. Trying to choose city.

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Quote from @Mason Green:

Hey everyone, looking to purchase our first investment property and would appreciate some guidance. We are located in the midwest and looking at Kansas City and Chicago as we are familiar with both cities and have spent significant time in both. We would love to house hack and use a fha loan but, are open to all investing options. We are young (24 and 26) Any advice on either of these markets and options to invest in.

Thank you, Appreciate any information and advice given.

Greetings Mason,

Congratulations on considering your first investment property! Both Kansas City and Chicago offer unique opportunities and challenges in the real estate market.

Kansas City: This market is known for its affordability compared to other major US cities. The rental market is robust, thanks to a diverse economy and a steady influx of young professionals. Look for neighborhoods with potential for growth or those undergoing revitalization, as these areas might offer better returns on investment.

Chicago: The Chicago market is more expensive but also offers higher potential rental incomes. The city's diverse neighborhoods each have their own character and tenant demand. Areas close to universities or business districts are often a good bet. However, be mindful of property taxes and local regulations, which can be more complex in Chicago.

House Hacking & FHA Loans: House hacking is a great strategy, especially for young investors. Using an FHA loan to purchase a multi-family property can allow you to live in one unit while renting out the others. This can significantly reduce your living expenses and help you gain experience as a landlord.

Other Investing Options: If house hacking isn't feasible, consider looking into traditional rentals, and fix-and-flips.

General Advice:

- Research: Deeply research any area before investing. Look into local market trends, rental rates, property taxes, and crime rates.

- Network: Connect with local real estate investors and realtors. They can provide valuable insights and might alert you to good deals.

- Budget Wisely: Factor in all costs, including potential renovations, property management, and vacancy rates.

- Legal and Financial Planning: Consult with a real estate attorney and a financial advisor to understand the legal and financial implications of your investment.

Good luck!

KC 

Post: Active duty and looking into rental investing

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Quote from @David Diez:

Hello everyone, I am stationed here in Florida near Daytona Beach. My wife and I live in our first house (used VA loan) here and we are looking for additional ways to create cash flow with our home. We have considered buying an RV to live in or eventually rent out, buying another property, etc. We are gladly open to any advice or recommendations. Thanks!

Hi David,

Thank you for your service.  I agree with @Sean Hudgins regarding an RV being a depreciating asset. However, the cost of entry may be easier than purchasing another property near-term. 

It's great to hear that you're exploring options to create additional cash flow using your property in Daytona Beach. Here are a few ideas that you might consider:

Short-Term Rentals: Given Daytona Beach's popularity as a tourist destination, you could explore renting out a portion of your house (like a room or a guest suite) on platforms like Airbnb or VRBO. This could provide a steady stream of income, especially during peak tourist seasons.

Long-Term Rentals: If you're open to buying an RV or another property, you could consider renting these out on a long-term basis. This could provide a more consistent and predictable income compared to short-term rentals.

Renting Your RV on a Short-Term Basis: If you decide to buy an RV, you could also rent it out for short-term stays or road trips when you're not using it. There are platforms specifically for RV rentals, like Outdoorsy or RVshare.  RV Rentals are HUGE for the Daytona Speedway, especially around the Daytona 500/Speedweek.

Home Improvement for Resale Value: Investing in home improvements that increase the value of your property could be another way to generate cash flow, especially if you plan to sell in the future. Focus on renovations that offer a good return on investment, like kitchen or bathroom updates.

All the best!
KC

Post: Can you give an offer with credit?

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Quote from @Mario Am:

Question. A friend asked me. 

So if lets say I have a lender that his minimum loan is 75k (has to be 75% of ARV), and I find a house for 85k that is valued at 100k and higher, could I offer the seller 100k with 15k credit back? So like at closing I get 15k back to my pocket? Or is that considered shady of some sort. Curious to hear your opinion.

Greetings Mario,

The scenario you've described involves offering a higher purchase price for a property with the intent of receiving a portion of that price back as a credit at closing. This strategy can raise several concerns and legal issues:

Mortgage Fraud Risks: If the details of the deal, particularly the credit back at closing, are not fully disclosed to the lender, it could be considered mortgage fraud. Lenders base their loan amounts on the value of the property and the integrity of the transaction. Omitting or misrepresenting details can lead to legal consequences.

Lender Policies: Most lenders have specific policies against this type of arrangement. They typically require a clear understanding of the transaction's terms, including any credits or incentives. If these are not transparently disclosed, the lender may refuse the loan or consider it a breach of contract.

Valuation Issues: Lenders typically require an appraisal to assess the property's value. If the actual value is lower than the stated purchase price, the lender may not approve the loan, particularly if the loan-to-value ratio is a key consideration.

Tax Implications: Both the buyer and seller may face tax implications from such a transaction. The seller might have to report the higher sale price, and the buyer may face issues related to property taxes, which are often based on the purchase price.

Post: Who can I hire to perform negotiations on my behalf in another state?

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Quote from @Cameron Ward:

I'm doing a deal another state and I don't have any of my team there at the moment so I was looking to see if there was a place where I can hire someone to sit and talk to the other party in my place. Can anybody help?

Hi Cameron,

It sounds like you're seeking a representative to attend a meeting or negotiation on your behalf in another state. Here are a few steps you can consider:

Professional Representation Services: Look for professional representation or concierge services that offer business representation. These companies often have experienced professionals who can represent your interests in meetings, negotiations, or other business settings.

Freelance Professionals: Platforms like Upwork, LinkedIn, or Fiverr can connect you with freelance professionals with the necessary skills and experience. You can post your specific requirements and select someone who meets your criteria.

Legal Representation: If the deal involves legal matters, consider hiring a lawyer who practices in the state where the meeting will occur. A lawyer can not only represent you but also provide legal advice relevant to the deal.

Local Business Consultants: Hiring a local business consultant or advisor might be beneficial. They can provide valuable insights into the local business environment and represent your interests effectively.

 
The BiggerPockets community will have several ideas but will need a more specific location to jump in on the conversation.  Do you have a location in mind, or do you just need ideas on where to find consultants when you nail down the city?