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All Forum Posts by: Kayla Johnson

Kayla Johnson has started 4 posts and replied 18 times.

Post: Mammoth Cave - Kentucky

Kayla JohnsonPosted
  • Owensboro, KY
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 6

Hi Cale! I live about an hour or so from Mammoth Cave. The area is beautiful and the tourism is great for the area in season. There aren’t a ton of AirBNB or VRBOs around there, so I think it would do well. We have 3 small children and rather than going on big vacations, we go to that area. They love Kentucky Down Under, we will be going to Dinosaur World this year, and we like to go to the cheesy touristy places. 
None of the attractions are new or sparkling. Most of the traffic is likely pretty local, like us, within a few hours of home, trying to have a decent little vacation without the price tag of the beach or the mountains. I think you'd stay booked throughout the tourist season if you're priced right, but this probably isn't the market to have a pristine, feature style STR for high dollar rents. That's not this market, but I think this is definitely a market you could make money in!

Post: What to Ask a CPA in Consultation

Kayla JohnsonPosted
  • Owensboro, KY
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Daniel Hyman:

@Kayla Johnson

Here are some questions you could ask:

1) How can your firm provide value to me as a real estate investor?

2) Do you provide tax strategy consultations? Or simply tax preparation?

3) What is the fee structure?

4) What is the preferred method and frequency of communication?

 Thank you for the feedback, Daniel! 

Post: What to Ask a CPA in Consultation

Kayla JohnsonPosted
  • Owensboro, KY
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Jaron Walling:

@Kayla Johnson Do you guys own a primary residence or rent? Do you have expenses that can be written off on taxes? Do you have valuable assets? The answer to these questions really determines if you even need a CPA. 

I thought I needed a CPA when I first started out. That simple wasn't the case. Until you get big and start juggling expenses, tax issues, or owning properties in an LLC it's not necessary. It's nearly impossible to not backpedal.

We own our primary residence, have always taken the standard tax deduction, have 4 children, one graduating high school this year, have never owned a business, don't know what could possibly be written off or what needs to be saved throughout the process, and would prefer to have a cpa and attorney assist with the set up of an LLC to ensure we're getting the most tax benefits and asset liability protection as well.

I know we won’t be able to avoid all backpedaling, but I don’t want to have to restructure later, transferring properties and missing documentation necessary for tax benefits because I didn’t know to save it. 

We may just use the CPA to help set up the LLC and then return later when we have enough business to really need them. But either way, I need to ask valid questions in the consultation.

Post: What to Ask a CPA in Consultation

Kayla JohnsonPosted
  • Owensboro, KY
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 6

I’m in the process of putting my business together, though my husband and I have not yet purchased a property. I want to put a hard focus on laying the groundwork to create a business that is poised to scale. Once we start buying properties, I want to scale as quickly as we can, and I don’t want to backpedal to handle things on the business side that could have been ready ahead of time. 

That said, I have my first consultation with a CPA next week. What are some questions I should ask to make sure the CPA is a good fit from a real estate investing perspective?

Thanks, all!

Post: Is this a good BRRRR or am I just excited?

Kayla JohnsonPosted
  • Owensboro, KY
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 6

Thank you all for your insights! I will check more into the state of the major systems and go from there. My excitement has been tempered, which is what I was going for. It’s no good to go in with emotions high! 
Thanks all!

Post: Is this a good BRRRR or am I just excited?

Kayla JohnsonPosted
  • Owensboro, KY
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Kris L.:

@Kayla Johnson

I’m a but worried about this deal for you to be honest. First, the property is over 100 years old, so it might have some very expensive potential issues. I think there is a very high risk that $20k is not going to cover all your non foundation items.

1. Foundation you already mentioned. We can leave that as is, though I’d get at least 3 quotes for repair costs.

2. Electric. Hopefully electric had been updated at some point in the past 30 years. You don’t want to find knob and tube wiring and have to rewire a 4 bed house. Also check the breaker box. If you don’t have 150 amp service at a minimum, you have to budget for that.

3. Plumbing. Again hopefully this has been done at some point since the Carter administration. A lot of older houses used cast iron piping. Some even used clay pipes. Replacing those if they are in bad condition is thousands.

4. You mentioned AC was stolen. Sounds like you need a few thousand there.

5. Permits. I don’t know the permits cost in your area, but where I am at, I budget 3% of the renovation cost for items that need permits

6. A 4/1 is often undesirable. Were you planning on making it a 4/2?

7. Roof, windows, doors, siding. Is the house weatherproof right now? If it isn’t, renovating will cost even more.

All this being said, it’s great you want to take action, but you really want to be careful with a property like this. Old and empty for a long time can be a recipe for very expensive renovations. At the very least, I would get an inspection before purchase. A few hundred spent on that could save you from buying a property that would end up thousands in the red.

Thank you! All good points. Reworking plumbing and electric are things I hadn’t considered.
The roof and siding look to be in good condition, but an inspection would be necessary to know for sure. The duplex next door burned down at some point somewhat recently and insurance replaced all the siding on that side of the house.

I’d like to make it a 4/2 or at least add a half bath, but it would depend on where else the money is eaten up. Even a 4/1 accepting section 8 in this area would be a desirable rental, though not ideal.
 

Post: Is this a good BRRRR or am I just excited?

Kayla JohnsonPosted
  • Owensboro, KY
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Gayle Eisner:

Old houses like what you described can be money pits unless you are a contractor.  I would stay away and look for something with less potential pitfalls.  It sounds, however, like you want the property.  Good luck! let us know how it goes!  

I do want the property, but knowing when to listen to people who know more than you is a sure way to get ahead. People have pointed several things I haven’t considered that are really helping me rein this excitement in!

Post: Is this a good BRRRR or am I just excited?

Kayla JohnsonPosted
  • Owensboro, KY
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Nicholas L.:

@Kayla Johnson do you have your own cash?  How would you finance the purchase and rehab?  Have you considered house hacking something that needs less work?

We have about $45k, the rest I’d have to work out private financing, and hoping the seller would finance the purchase. It would be a lot of work to even get it going. That’s why I’m looking for reasons it’s not worth it.  BP is coming through on it, too, I knew I just needed someone to point out the things I didn’t know to look for or was purposely not seeing!
My husband and I have four children in the house from 1yr to 17, house hacking isn’t really something we can or are willing to do with our household size. 

Post: Is this a good BRRRR or am I just excited?

Kayla JohnsonPosted
  • Owensboro, KY
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Taylor Muell:

I'm definitely no pro in estimating rehab costs but I'm curious about how you came up with 20K in rehab. If it is as bad as you made it sound on the inside, it sounds like you might need a lot more than $20K. And if it was built around 1900 I would want to know what kind of condition the plumbing system is in and the electrical is probably way out of code. Those are two big ticket items. New flooring and paint in the whole house is likely to cost upwards of $6,000 depending on what materials you choose. All that to say I would want to be more certain on what the rehab cost would be

I’m basically just guessing because $20k will get a good chunk of work in this area. I haven’t been in the house yet, and I haven’t done real research on estimating it. We would do all the painting, and the majority of the handyman level work. We could put 20k, or even 30k into it and still come out on top.  If it’s a deal that really becomes viable, I’d have an inspection done and receive some bids to make sure it could be done in that budget. But I don’t want to go through all of that if I’m just looking through rose colored glasses because I’m excited at the prospect. I need someone to point out any obvious red flags I’m looking past because I do not have a local network yet, I don’t know anyone that’s doing this that can talk me down with logic, and I need that right now, haha.

Electrical is something I didn’t account for, you’re probably right that it’s a mess. 

Post: Is this a good BRRRR or am I just excited?

Kayla JohnsonPosted
  • Owensboro, KY
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 6

I need to be talked down. I’m convincing myself that this is a good deal before I really know what I’m doing and what to consider. I know this is not a proper analysis, I’m working on that. My market is western Kentucky, so the numbers are all relatively low in comparison to what most of you are accustomed to.

My husband and I are looking to buy our first property in the next few months and BRRRR it. I'm only halfway through the BRRRR book and haven't even started The Book on Estimating Rehab Costs (it will be here this week!)

We found a falling apart property in a low income area, probably a C- neighborhood. The basement wall has crumbled on one side, the support posts have fallen off the porch and it is currently condemned due to structural damage. The current owner has it FSBO for $30k obo. It's been empty for months. Seller is elderly, was selling to previous tenants on contract when the structural damage occurred and they left after not paying her for over a year.

She’s gotten one bid for the structural repairs at $25-$30k, the AC components have been stolen, the inside is in bad shape. Previous tenants apparently had large dogs and no inclination to clean. It looks like there is a plywood floor in the kitchen area, but we haven’t been inside yet, just peaked in the back window and talked to chatty neighbors.

Now, this is where I need the talking down.. I just about have myself convinced that there’s very little chance this isn’t worth buying and fixing for cash flow and here’s why. I think the seller would be likely to finance (she was selling to tenants on contract), and take a much lower price than $30k, say $18k, then the high end of the bid she received for the structural repairs, $30k, and another $20k in rehab would put us all in at $68k. This is a 4BA, 1BA, built around 1900, I believe. An updated 3/2 several blocks down built around the same time sold for $126k not too long ago. I’d hope to get at least $100k on the appraisal and pull out 75% on a cash out refi, leaving me with a $75k mortgage, escrowed payment likely under/around $700. Section 8 voucher for a 4 bedroom in my area is $1041/mo.

Tell me why this won’t work. Please. I need to pull back but I can’t talk myself out of it because I want it!