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All Forum Posts by: Kathy Cooper

Kathy Cooper has started 3 posts and replied 51 times.

Quote from @Michael Baum:

So @Kathy Cooper, you are saying to believe that all STRs will go away and become longer stay STR or a LTR? I am not sure that is going to happen really.

I do see some folks making the switch over if necessary, but there are many performing STRs in many markets that will keep going on. Our place wouldn't make a good short stay long term rental. Maybe a decent LTR but it is a lake house that is quite rural. We are doing well in the STR market and I think we will keep on keepin' on.


I absolutely did NOT mean that all STRs will go away and become longer stays. I was just noting what I am experiencing. In fact, one cannot make a blanket statement like that, as there is a huge field of differences in market out there fro STR. I think the pure vacation homes (ie a nice lake house or such) are still doing well. People need to "get away". There has been tremendous changes for whatever reason, in the markets otherwise. Each investment will be different. I am in an area that is fortunate to take advantage of different markets. I am balancing and changing according to how well one is doing over the other. This is all just my opinion based on experience with my specific properties. If you are doing well with STR, keep it going by all means. I think we have a storm we are weathering out still in our economy and it is different from place to place. All the very best!

Quote from @Dustin Blackmon:

I have a short term rental in the suburbs of San Antonio.  Cibolo, TX is close to Randolph AFB and 30 min drive to downtown San Antonio or New Braunfels.  We have been booked for a1.5 years straight with 90 percent occupancy rate until December 2022. Going into January, I had zero reservations.  Scary times but thankfully the home cash flowed well for a long time so while we were nervous, we didn't give up.  I made some changes and lowered my prices.  Then the next day I caught a 30-day reservation.   I have heard from other owners in more saturated areas of San Antonio have been having the same issue with minimal reservations.

I hope to continue to make adjustments to keep my occupancy rate up.  I am not in a vacation area but have found a niche in the suburbs with people transitioning to south Texas and waiting to close on a home.  

Similar experience here...medical center area market has saved my ars. MTR to traveling profession and military families relocating has been my base from Aug to now. I'm expecting the summer to hop, but have limited my % of homes to on two for STR. Diversifying. Airbnb dominates SA, and to make matters worse, at cheap prices for amateurs. I refuse to drop my prices that low, as my experience is you attract the disrespectful guests that way.

I believe things are greatly changing, as the city is cracking down on STR owners not paying their HOT (I heard a rumor that it was about 60% of the listings). Hummm...we'll see how that effect us now.

Quote from @Myka Artis:

Yes, Airbnb's stock price has plummeted and guests are leaving the platform for hotels due to the "hidden fees" by Airbnb so with the winter release they had to do something to cater to both the host and the guest. The guest gets to see the total price while the host can now easily remove unfavorable reviews. Airbnb's algorithm took a major change and a lot of vacancies started to happen across the board. I personally took advantage of it and started running Google ads toward Airbnb's SEO to get direct bookings. Airbnb taking the brunt hit is actually a good thing for STR operators.

We have to start keeping short-term rentals separate from Airbnb. Airbnb is just a listing platform. If true STR operators wanted to protect short-term rentals they would be building a brand where customers can book direct. Just use Airbnb as a lead generation tool.


I always correct and "educate" people when they refer to the "STR" as an "airbnb". I see the STR model moving towards MTR, or LTR for sure. When an owner realizes the profit margin is probably better in some cases in LTR, things change. I am doing all 3. Airbnb IMO has never been a good business partner for the owners, just sayin'.

When people discuss this topic, keep in mind there is a HUGE variation in results regionally, market of product, and management/dedication. 

Those "damned millennial/Z's" ;) lack respect/appreciation much of the time. I still find good ones out there. I'm enjoying being able to screen my guests more. 

One needs to keep on top of things in this business and be ready to dance either in the dance hall or over the coals. Be flexible and move when necessary. In my meager opinion :)

Post: Mid Term Rentals Vs Short Term Rentals

Kathy CooperPosted
  • Investor
  • Westford, MA
  • Posts 52
  • Votes 39
Quote from @Michael Guzik:

Howdy everyone wanted to get some feedback / opinions on mid term rentals! Looking to begin a potential development in downtown San Antonio that can be short or mid term rentals due to the area. Wondering what your experience has been with either? And if you have a preference which one and why?


I don't think the supply for downtown, fully furnished, in a great location mid term rentals is there so I'm definitely leaning more towards that option, but I'm open to feedback. Would love to connect with anyone in short / mid term rentals in the San Antonio / Austin area as I dive more into this area of real estate!


 I have several homes in San Antonio and do both, short and mid term. I find that designating some for short term and the others for monthly works best. The bookings have different lead times. Monthly seems to be last minute (closer to check-in) and short term a bit out. They conflict with each other, as you need open schedule for monthly. 

If you are seeking single family homes that are ready to go, I am about to sell to relocate ... (not listed yet) 

Post: Trying to ween myself off of Airbnb

Kathy CooperPosted
  • Investor
  • Westford, MA
  • Posts 52
  • Votes 39
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @Kathy Cooper:
I noticed a big increase this year in VRBO bookings. And it still continues...but that could just be me...?

 It really depends on the area.  VRBO has a very strong vacation area market, ie: bakehouse etc...

Post: Trying to ween myself off of Airbnb

Kathy CooperPosted
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  • Westford, MA
  • Posts 52
  • Votes 39
Quote from @JD Martin:

I have gotten a lot of traffic and traction off of Booking.com and filled a lot of empty dates that weren't coming in on the Airbnb/VRBO site. BUT - and this is a huge but - there are some serious caveats you need to keep in mind:

1. You need to have your own ability to take payment. We have our own portals - we have all the major stuff already because of our LTR company - Stripe, Square, Zelle, Paypal, etc - but if you don't have this, you will need to get it to use Booking.com. Eventually, I'm told, you get to be a gold star type host and they'll collect payment for you, but no one can tell me when or how this will work because...

2. They're a foreign company and not very easy to work with. Reps speak rudimentary english at best. You will spend some time on the front end waiting on long holds, and you'll do this because...

3. They don't charge the guest's credit cards, only take them to book on your calendar - so if the guest cancels during your "no cancellation" period, you are SOL because you don't have the CC number and can't see the CC number. Eventually, I'm told, you can see this once you're a gold-star type host, but until then the info is masked so you have no way of pre-authorizing or charging the card. You have to physically contact the guest yourself to get their credit card info to have them pay through an outside portal (like those I listed). And because they don't actually charge the CC and you have no way of charging the CC until they pay...

4. You get a decent number of scam and "lookey loo" bookers, because they know they haven't actually paid for anything. This ends up being a problem because once someone books, they've locked you into that booking according to booking.com's rules - you can't cancel until they day they don't contact you with a valid credit card. 

So I have had my battles with them. I've done a lot of traffic and stays with them so far - probably 50% compared to 50% total Airbnb/VRBO - but I have worked for that money for sure. 

If you use them, I would highly recommend blocking out high-value dates on their platform and leave them open on the other platforms, and either manually sync your calendars or just leave the booking calendar off of VRBO/AirBnb, because you don't want some BS booking clogging up Christmas, New Years, etc. 


 Yikes...lol  This is not a strong argument for booking.com  

This brings me back to the point that there is a huge opportunity for a new booking site. VRBO is good, but certainly can be next to nothing depending on your area. There was a good surge after Super Bowl ads, but then it dropped off again.

Post: Trying to ween myself off of Airbnb

Kathy CooperPosted
  • Investor
  • Westford, MA
  • Posts 52
  • Votes 39
Quote from @Carolyn Fuller:
Quote from @Brian Eilering:

As everyone is rushing to get into the Airbnb market, we have been in it long enough to want to get off of their platform altogether.

We still want to do short-term rentals just not on Airbnb due to their guest-friendly company policies.

Sorry but I think all of us should be in the guest / tenant-friendly business. At least those of us who want to be super successful. Even with my long term tenants, I try to maintain this attitude and it pays huge dividends.


 It only takes one bad guest problem with Airbnb to realize they probably won't believe you, and will believe a lying guest...it can be bad, although rare. They are horrible when there are issues with guests. I had one that wouldn't leave on check-out day, and he did alot of damage to the home. It was a nightmare. Airbnb didn't care, and doubted me. crazy... I have excellent customer service, but sometimes, there are guests looking to scam...although very rare.  All this being said, good luck.

Post: Trying to ween myself off of Airbnb

Kathy CooperPosted
  • Investor
  • Westford, MA
  • Posts 52
  • Votes 39
Quote from @Brian Eilering:

As everyone is rushing to get into the Airbnb market, we have been in it long enough to want to get off of their platform altogether.

We still want to do short-term rentals just not on Airbnb due to their guest-friendly company policies.

We are not in a vacation area so VRBO produced next to nothing.  We actually cater to workers coming in and out of our area.  We love the aspect of the 30-90 day guest.  We have our units on Furnished Finder and it fills some of our calendars, just not all of them.  

Does anyone have experience with other sites or strategies doing short-term rentals....not on Airbnb?


 I deleted my Airbnb account when they began the whole "sharing data with China" thing. I've had my bad bouts with the company a few times and just don't like the way they do business... I wish VRBO would bring constant bookings, but only in vaca areas. I too am looking for other platforms. I think there is a huge opportunity out there for a new platform. This being said, there are many new platforms charging listing fees and bring 0 results. It's a pickle right now. 

Post: STR Insurance Policy... who do you use?

Kathy CooperPosted
  • Investor
  • Westford, MA
  • Posts 52
  • Votes 39

I'm not in FL but have found Foremost to be half of Proper Ins recently. Yes, apples to apples. Not sure why. Foremost has been a good co. for me so far. Easy to work with. Yes, STR insurance is something to make sure you figure into your numbers...

Hey Meredith,

As your "woman-owned" approach is most likely well intended, I too see it as a counter productive move you may want to rethink.  I find that men are just as valuable as women ;)  I don't think it will go too well in this industry. I choose to work with anyone qualified and reliable, skilled, etc... to work well together, not excluding anyone. 

All the very best tho...