Skip to content
×
PRO
Pro Members Get Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
$0
TODAY
$69.00/month when billed monthly.
$32.50/month when billed annually.
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here
Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties. Try BiggerPockets PRO.
x
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Kang-Li Cheng

Kang-Li Cheng has started 1 posts and replied 19 times.

Post: Help me analyze this deal

Kang-Li Cheng
Pro Member
Posted
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 11
Quote from @Alan Hale:
Quote from @Kang-Li Cheng:
Quote from @Diana Ung:

@Kang-Li Cheng - Just wondering if you have any updates on your experience with Doorvest? Thank you!


 I'm pleased to say things have turned around. A new tenant was placed and things have been going better. The new customer service rep is more responsive and more responsible, which makes a big difference.


 I just heard about them via the BP Business Podcast.  Would you still use them? 


 I'd consider them for my next investment, yes

Post: Fund that Flip

Kang-Li Cheng
Pro Member
Posted
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 11
Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Kang-Li Cheng

I cannot comment on this specific company but we buy loans from similar companies (both performing and non performing) and I Can say the consistent component to these companies is they are horrible at underwriting and write loans to collect the points / fees but many of the loans we see we cannot believe they gave that person a loan.

I am curious what types of returns they targeted as the invest in one asset model to me is very risky.

You can see the target returns to be 10-13%. Upright (FundThatFlip) no longer has a marketplace for individual loans. They only have a private REIT product now.

Post: Help me analyze this deal

Kang-Li Cheng
Pro Member
Posted
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 11
Quote from @Diana Ung:

@Kang-Li Cheng - Just wondering if you have any updates on your experience with Doorvest? Thank you!


 I'm pleased to say things have turned around. A new tenant was placed and things have been going better. The new customer service rep is more responsive and more responsible, which makes a big difference.

Post: Recent experiences w/ Peer Street and Fund that Flip?

Kang-Li Cheng
Pro Member
Posted
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 11
Quote from @Josh Rowley:

I have a friend who has money with FTF and it seems like everything’s in limbo right now. Apparently the fund transfer processor they were using went bankrupt.


 I can also attest to this. I understand the processor bankruptcy caused a big disruption but it also seems like FTF (Upright) was overly leveraged because they've proceeded mass sell their loan book, which means if you held one of the loans that will be sold you will receive no interest until due diligence is completed and possibly a hit to principal depending on the final price the buyer pays. 

For loans that aren't being sold, interest is being waived since borrowers cannot receive draws. Finally, not sure if this is just a coincidence but default and delinquency rates have shot up since May. FTF gives borrowers a lot of leeway in making the repayment. 

TLDR: The first lien position sounds nice in theory. In practice, legal proceedings are very costly and time consuming (from a few months up to 2-3 years). The delays can be a significant opportunity cost too. LTV estimates are sometimes overly optimistic, so many loans that don't get paid off by the borrower become worth very little.

Post: Fund That Flip (FTF) - 87% LOSS - be careful

Kang-Li Cheng
Pro Member
Posted
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 11
Quote from @Glen Friedman:

 At least they're still working on recovering the funds for the Newark one and looks like investors won't be suffering a complete loss of principal. 

Post: Help me analyze this deal

Kang-Li Cheng
Pro Member
Posted
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 11

I am a current customer. I would avoid, suffered huge losses due to 6+ month vacancies between tenants and very expensive turn repairs (~4k after only 1 year).

I will update this post if my experience changes for the better 

Post: Doorvest experience journal

Kang-Li Cheng
Pro Member
Posted
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 11

Avoid them. Or don't and suffer huge losses due to subpar leasing and property management operations. I have one property with them and I regret it almost every day.

Post: Fund that Flip

Kang-Li Cheng
Pro Member
Posted
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 11

I've invested in a over a dozen loans with FundThatFlip (now rebranded to Upright). Currently 25% of my investments (dollar value) are in distress, some borrowers have gone bankrupt, others simply stopped paying interest and are not paying the principal back despite the loan being due 3 months ago. 

Right now, things are even worse because of the Synapse payment processor issue. Upright is trying to liquidate as many loans to maintain liquidity. I am very worried many of those loans will be sold at low values.


As others have pointed out, communication is not their strong suit and neither apparently is transparency. They make efforts here and there to keep you informed but it is not systematic. The bigger issue is just poor performance.

Post: Alternatives to parents selling childhood home

Kang-Li Cheng
Pro Member
Posted
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 11

@Caroline Gerardo Good suggestions. I meant take over the mortgage as in "pay it for your parents" not actually assume the mortgage. Maybe from a lender's perspective that's not a good idea but if it's in the family then I feel more ok with it.

Post: Alternatives to parents selling childhood home

Kang-Li Cheng
Pro Member
Posted
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 11

I have been in a similar situation before. Personally I think it's a terrible idea to try to manage your parents' finances IF thats' going to lead to a lot of strain in the relationship. If your relationship with them is good and you can discuss options with them then I'd suggest a couple of things...

1) Get new quotes from contractors on the renovations, maybe that's something you should get involved in (or not!). ~600k on renovations is insane. Sorry but that's my instinctive response. Talk to your parents about paring down the wishlist while you're at it. Also where are your parents going to live while that much work is going on? 

2) You and your sister should offer a lump sum first. Then take over the mortgage, rent out the house. Room by room if you need to get higher cash flow and have time to manage. It's actually not that hard to do room by room if you screened well and look for the right kind of persons. Or just regular LTR. Send your parents the profits and then some per month. 


It's an unfortunate situation for the kids. Looks like your parents essentially planned their retirement around selling the family home, so this sounds like a tough situation on many levels, not just financially. But if you really want to save the house, appeal to their sense of nostalgia and see if they will work with you on this. Best of luck.