Originally posted by @Jack Martin:
I was in Minneapolis last year and couldn't believe how cheap housing is, prepare for a shock when you enter San Diego! Living in Orange County, I recently went to a realtor meeting and they were crying about the lack of flip opportunities, all this to say, the "Pros" have been flipping for ten years now and with essentially no foreclosures in San Diego, where are you going to find opportunities? Cap rates are 4-6%; SD is at the top of the market (post recession highs), virtually no vacancy factor in SF, OC, and SD. Trust me, unless you have a ton of money, you can't compete! Some of the most sophisticated investors are in Southern California. Not to mention Chinese money is flowing into the San Gabriel Valley (LA) where they are buying whole blocks sight unseen. I would keep your money parked until the next recession.
Hi Jack, Thanks for replying. I have been investing for a long time. There are many many ways to find opportunities without foreclosures. I have not purchased a foreclosure since 2013 here in MN. All of my deals have been non-mls, non-REO properties and with the demographic of the area, I am sure there are plenty of opportunities there as well. I was more concerned with the high home prices and rental rates and what people were accepting for cap rates and making money with. Strategies in a more expensive location are critical and I want to connect with people who are working the system there and making stuff happen.
Prices of homes are all relative. You are on the ocean and people pay bigger money for that. No one wants to pay a ton to live here...the summers are beautiful, but the winters are horrible. Income rates are a little lower here, but there are many fortune 500s here that bring in the buyers. I believe pricing is all relative and if the economy supports the pricing then it is what it is. The housing supply here is low just like most desirable cities and we are still working out deals. I don't believe there will ever be a recession like the one we had (at least not in my active lifetime), but the market always corrects some and then continues on the upward trajectory. It is typically slower than what we have seen in recent years, but there is definitely a trend.