All Forum Posts by: Jy Kasnett

The Alabama Supreme Court ruled on June 24, 2022 that the retroactive portion of a tax sale statute was illegal. The statute stripped former owners (and the investors who partnered with them, by implication) of their rights to claim the excess funds in a tax sale. The scenario is an auction for unpaid taxes of $1,000 as an example. The bidding reaches $20,000. Who is entitled to the excess $19,000?  Earlier Supreme Court decisions said the owner could claim that money. Unhappy special interests got legislation passed that said "only if the owner redeems" and the law was specified as retroactive.

I am paraphrasing, but the recent decision said, "You cannot just pass a law and make it retroactive and deprive people of their property rights with a wave of your magic wand!"

So, for tax auctions before the 2014 amendment, excess funds strategies are back on again because the retroactive part of the statute has been struck down.

What about AFTER the statute was passed, so "retroactive" is not an issue?  Good question. It is exactly the same reasoning, you cannot just take people's property rights away.  If my house sold for $20,000 for unpaid taxes of $1,000, then my house had AT LEAST $19,000 worth of value that the counties want to keep unless I redeem. What if my house isn't worth redeeming? I'm entitled to at least my $19,000, right?

Another case is bubbling up in the appeals process that will probably say the same reasoning as in the June 24 case applies to tax auctions after 2014, too.

WHO exactly is the owner entitled to the money. Formerly it was thought "owner" meant the person who did not pay their taxes.  Another Supreme Court decision from several years ago said it is the owner at the time of the claim for the money. Which might be different from the owner at the time of the tax auction.

What does that mean to you? Start researching the excess funds treasure troves again in Alabama, update your joint venture agreements, and sign up CURRENT owners so you can claim that money and split it according to however you negotiate the split.  Happy days will soon be here again, and you should be ready.

Often, the current owner is the tax deed holder. Think about that, and what it means if you have tax deeds!  You can get some of your own money back.

Thanks i had never known

About this method

Im sure its a lot more

Complicated than they portrayed 

@Bob Anthes that is a tough business and you have professional collections people to compete against. As @Arnie Abramson it is not as easy as the Gurus teaching this stuff imply.

As @Jermaine Chad Ingram people can apply for this themselves. However often the reason a property is lost in the first place is someone has moved on and they never got the tax bill in the first place. If they are not getting tax bills, they are not getting notices they are owed surplus money. So there is some opportunity, it's just a tough game. 

Then getting top dollar from a retail owner occupant buyer is probably off the table... you can throw it on zillow/craigslist as a fsbo if you want. Properties properly marketed and reasonably exposed, and all that, generally go for more than 6% higher than fsbo, otherwise Realtors wouldn't exist. 

Price it retail. You won't see investor interest, no matter where it's advertised.

MLS is where retail listings go. I guess I'm not clear on the question?

@Pace J. & @ryanlee

I used to work for a really successful and experienced broker who knows everything about land. I'd be happy to share his info if you are interested!