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All Forum Posts by: Justin Owens

Justin Owens has started 13 posts and replied 201 times.

Post: New member from Arizona

Justin OwensPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Gilbert, AZ
  • Posts 220
  • Votes 122

Congrats!

Where is your rental located? 

Post: East Valley Rehab

Justin OwensPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Gilbert, AZ
  • Posts 220
  • Votes 122

@Adam Dahlberg Did you offer $80k? :-)

Maybe I am either too conservative or you have more nailed down numbers.

I am looking for anything. If I could have had 80% equity I would have BRRR'ed this and added 2-3 more units to the property or else just flipped it.

I am looking ideally for a BRRR deal so I don't tie up all my cash on one deal but I am also considering decent multifams that cash flow. SFRs don't seem to cash flow unless it's in the old/renovation areas.

Post: How I walked away from my first deal with $67,899.45; thanks BP!

Justin OwensPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Gilbert, AZ
  • Posts 220
  • Votes 122

@Haydn Zeis Well Done!

You mentioned on the new purchase where the actual cost was less because of your commission due.

Sometimes I'll take the commission if I need cash for the rehab or a property but this commission comes as income and I pay income taxes on it. I also have negotiated the lowest price, then after escrow is open, I'll send an addendum waiving my commission and reducing the purchase price by the same amount resulting in the same net to the seller. This helps especially if it's a long term buy and hold because the appreciation would be treated as a long term capital gain rather than ordinary income. If I flipped it, then I would just postpone the income tax from the acquisition to the disposition of the property (assuming I profited :-).

Keep up the good work.

Post: East Valley Rehab

Justin OwensPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Gilbert, AZ
  • Posts 220
  • Votes 122

Chandler Gilbert Mesa Arizona

Post: East Valley Rehab

Justin OwensPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Gilbert, AZ
  • Posts 220
  • Votes 122

A home pops up today. Wife spotted it first runs comps and it looks pretty good as a BRRR or flip. I call the contractor and we meet onsite. It's in the downtown area which is pretty hot right now. A woman and her contractor came through while we were there.

The place is an absolute dump! My contractor estimated 5 containers of trash would need to be hauled off. The main house is a 2/1 about 1100 square feet built in 1930. Pretty bad shape but after checking the basement and attic the framing seems fine. Needs new wiring and plumbing. Also needs an HVAC system. 

There is also a detached garage or casita that had its own meter. The 2nd unit needs to be torn down. Just terrible condition, leaning walls, trash etc. Hoarders lived in both units and the tenants were evicted a few weeks back and utilities shut off.

My contractor, after discussing an ARV of between $150k and $180k (very optimistic) suggested an offer of $60k as-is or $70k with the debris removed. I agreed with the numbers. List price is $90k.

I called the agent, nice gal. We discussed the property and she forwared bids for the clean up at about 9k for all the debris removal. My contractor had estimated $10k-but my contractor wouldn't charge me if it took longer than he anticipated. I trust this guy with my life. She said she already had 2 offers. I tell her what my contractor had said of $60k or $70k and she said that was lower than the two she already had.

With the amount of work needing to be done, I decided to pass rather than get into a bidding war. With the age and work needing to be done any number of things could pop up. 

As hot as the market is right now, I am guessing MLS is not the place to get these properties. I either need to look out of the PHX metro area including out of state, or try and get off market properties.

Ah the search continues. . .

Post: Went bankrupt trying to wholesale, here's my sage advice

Justin OwensPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Gilbert, AZ
  • Posts 220
  • Votes 122

Preach the truth brother. I think it's nice to post the success stories but honest setbacks and hard knock experience posts like this do the REI a great service.

Post: New Member from Arizona

Justin OwensPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Gilbert, AZ
  • Posts 220
  • Votes 122

Welcome Doug, it's amazing how many in the REI world haven't yet found BP. You have arrived.

Post: Arizona Bound

Justin OwensPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Gilbert, AZ
  • Posts 220
  • Votes 122

Little light on the details but welcome!

Post: Hey Everyone

Justin OwensPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Gilbert, AZ
  • Posts 220
  • Votes 122

Welcome Michelle! this site is a great resource. What are you looking at for your next acquisition?

Post: New member in Mesa AZ

Justin OwensPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Gilbert, AZ
  • Posts 220
  • Votes 122

Welcome @Nolan M. and congrats on your first purchase. What do the numbers look like? What area of town is it in?