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All Forum Posts by: Juan Chavez

Juan Chavez has started 2 posts and replied 16 times.

@John Farady

John it is in foreclosure for other reasons, so the note is already being called to be paid. A homeowner transferring title to whomever they choose is not fraudulent. What federal policy says you can't quit claim deed a property or buy a HECM for 95% of the value if you are legal title holder? I am sure mortgagees will follow the laws, but I do also have my real estate attorney assisting me in this matter.

I posted in this blog in hopes those who have gone through HECM sales following 206.125 guidelines will share experience or reference government websites for answers.

@Wayne Brooks

From what I am reading from the HUD website.. and I pasted the links below

HECM guide lines are not the same as FHA PFS. For sale of HECM refer to 206.125. Please review and share your thoughts.

"206.125

Acquisition and sale of the property.

(a) Initial action by the mortgagee. (1) The mortgagee shall notify the Commissioner within 60 days of the mortgage becoming due and payable when the conditions stated in the mortgage, as required by § 206.27(c)(1) have occurred or when the Deferral Period ends. The mortgagee shall notify the Commissioner within 30 days when one of the conditions stated in the mortgage, as required by § 206.27(c)(2), has occurred.

(2) After notifying and receiving approval of the Commissioner when needed, the mortgagee shall notify the borrower, Eligible Non-Borrowing Spouse, borrower's estate, and borrower's heir(s), as applicable, within 30 days of the later of notifying the Commissioner or receiving approval, if needed, that the mortgage is due and payable. The mortgagee shall give the applicable party 30 days from the date of notice to engage in the following actions:

(i) Pay the outstanding loan balance, including any accrued interest, MIP, and mortgagee advances in full;

(ii) Sell the property for an amount not to be less than the amount determined by the Commissioner through notice, which shall not exceed 95 percent of the appraised value as determined under § 206.125(b), with the net proceeds of the sale to be applied towards the outstanding loan balance. Closing costs shall not exceed the greater of: 11 percent of the sales price; or a fixed dollar amount as determined by the Commissioner through Federal Register notice. For the purposes of this section, sell includes the transfer of title by operation of law;

(iii) Provide the mortgagee with a deed in lieu of foreclosure;

(iv) Correct the condition which resulted in the mortgage coming due and payable for reasons other than the death of the last surviving borrower;

(v) For an Eligible Non-Borrowing Spouse, correct the condition which resulted in an end to the Deferral Period in accordance with § 206.57; or

(vi) Such other actions as permitted by the Commissioner through notice.

(3) For a borrower, even after a foreclosure proceeding is begun, the mortgagee shall permit the borrower to correct the condition which resulted in the mortgage coming due and payable and to reinstate the mortgage, and the mortgage insurance shall continue in effect. The mortgagee may require the borrower to pay any costs that the mortgagee incurred to reinstate the borrower, including foreclosure costs and reasonable attorney's fees. Such costs shall be paid by adding them to the outstanding loan balance. The mortgagee may refuse reinstatement by the borrower if:

(i) The mortgagee has accepted reinstatement of the mortgage within the past two years immediately preceding the current notification to the borrower that the mortgage is due and payable;

(ii) Reinstatement will preclude foreclosure if the mortgage becomes due and payable at a later date; or

(iii) Reinstatement will adversely affect the priority of the mortgage lien.

(4) For an Eligible Non-Borrowing Spouse, even after a foreclosure proceeding is begun, the mortgagee shall permit the Eligible Non-Borrowing Spouse to cure the condition which resulted in the Deferral Period ceasing, in accordance with § 206.57(d).

(b) Appraisal. The mortgagee shall have the property appraised by an appraiser on the FHA roster, or other appraiser acceptable to, and identified by, the Commissioner through Federal Register notice, no later than 30 days after receipt of the request by an applicable party in connection with a potential property sale. The property shall be appraised before a foreclosure sale and have an effective appraisal date that is no more than 30 days before such sale. The appraisal shall be at the requesting party's expense unless the mortgage is due and payable. If the mortgage is due and payable, the appraisal shall be at the mortgagee's expense but the mortgagee shall have a right to be reimbursed out of the proceeds of any sale by the borrower or other permissible party. The Commissioner may, through Federal Register notice, identify other acceptable types of valuation for establishing the value of HECMs for the purpose of sale.

(c) Sale by borrower or other permissible party. Where the HECM is not due and payable, the borrower or an authorized representative of the borrower may sell the property for at least the lesser of the outstanding loan balance or the appraised value. Where the HECM is due and payable at the time the contract for sale is executed, the borrower or other party with legal right to dispose of the property may sell the property in accordance with the amount established by § 206.125(a)(2)(ii). The mortgagee shall satisfy the mortgage of record (and the Commissioner will satisfy any second mortgage required by the Commissioner under § 206.27(d) of record) in order to facilitate the sale, provided that there are no junior liens (except the mortgage to secure payments by the Commissioner if required under § 206.27(d)) and all the net proceeds from the sale are paid to the mortgagee."

For reference

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2017/01/19/2017-01044/federal-housing-administration-strengthening-the-home-equity-conversion-mortgage-program#sectno-reference-206.52

And

"Home Equity Conversion Mortgages (HECM) are not eligible for the PFS Program. The Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) provides special provisions for HECM short sales. Mortgagees should refer to 24 CFR Part § 206.125 (c) or contact HUD's NSC at the address below (Attention: HECM Housing Specialist)"

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://arlington.hosted.civiclive.com/UserFiles/Servers/Server_14481062/File/City%2520Hall/Depts/Housing%2520Authority/More%2520Info/Announcements/Homeowner%2520Foreclosure/HUD-ML-2008-43-PFS-Program.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjDrO392vDsAhVJHc0KHYJUCVIQFjADegQIHRAB&usg=AOvVaw3Nj_sLYkii2U6oDlsbYBLe

@John Farady

I understand short sales have different guide lines based on if it's VA, HUD, Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac. The one I'm currently trying to accomplish is the HECM Reverse mortgage which is a HUD backed loan. There is a clause that says the owner, heirs, or legal owner can buy the house for 95% of the current value. There is not mention of arms length transaction. The 95% value is far less then the default judgement. I am trying to give the owner money to quit claim deed and then have the bank do the appraisal and purchase for the 95%. I'm hoping someone has done this before and can vouch that it is possible. I will eventually find out from servicer but I thought I check here first..

heres the link for more info and quote from link

When a HECM is Due and Payable, the Borrower, Eligible Non-Borrowing
Spouse, Borrower’s estate, or Borrower’s heir(s), as applicable, may sell the
property for a minimum of 95% of the appraised value.
This guidance announces to the industry the amount the Commissioner will
accept when a Borrower, Eligible Non-Borrowing Spouse, Borrower’s estate,
or Borrower’s heir(s) is satisfying a Due and Payable HECM for less than the
total loan balance.

https://www.hud.gov/sites/documents/17-11ml.pdf

Can a homeowner in foreclosure accept money and quit claim deed their property? And then can that new homeowner try to do a short sale with the bank and be the buyer and essentially the seller?

Does anyone have resources on how to buy a HECM Reverse mortgage for 95% of present value. See https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.hud.gov/sites/dfiles/SFH/documents/sfh_hecm_inherit_security.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwisuLX4o-_sAhVDGs0KHT_8CasQFjACegQIHxAB&usg=AOvVaw2fAvyRvYikjs6CDLHRlgRQ