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All Forum Posts by: Jimmy Suszynski

Jimmy Suszynski has started 21 posts and replied 68 times.

Post: Entity structure for flip houses

Jimmy SuszynskiPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Pittsburgh
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 28

The sale is from an estate so the estate's attorney is handling all of the paperwork. I have my realtor. I do have a question about the LLC formation through an attorney. It seems quite simple to fill out the state registration forms--is the attorney most needed for the operating agreement portion? These are single-member LLC's without much complexity.

The reason I ask is that the lender for the property wants the house deeded directly to an LLC where my original plan was to deed into a land trust and reassing the beneficiary as the LLC up after once I was able to get an appointment with a local attorney since it takes 4-6 weeks for the paperwork to come back from the state.

Post: Entity structure for flip houses

Jimmy SuszynskiPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Pittsburgh
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 28

@Suzanne Player thank you and I agree. I am just starting out and don’t have tens of thousands laying around to pay for attorneys to set these up for me. I know it’s a necessity, though.

Maybe it’s best to wait a year or so until I can pay outright for all of these services to be done professionally?

Post: Entity structure for flip houses

Jimmy SuszynskiPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Pittsburgh
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 28

I've been reading through tons of past articles and I understand the mechanics of this, save one thing.

I created an LLC (A), will tax as an S-Corp, for all of the business activities associated with house flips. My branding and checks and business credit will live here.

I am putting an offer in tomorrow on a property and plan to deed it to a land trust so that I can figure this other stuff out. I've read that it is important to have a bank account for each LLC, but, the money I use to purchase and rehab this property is in the bank account of LLC-A. If I create LLC-B to hold title with LLC-A as its sole member, do I need to create a bank account for that and run all funds through it in order to rehab this house? LLC-B will be a disregarded entity, so everything will flow up to LLC-A and taxed accordingly. If I need to, I can open an online business checking account for the holding LLC-B.

I was told by an attorney that I should create a new LLC for each flip, that way if someone 3-4 years down the road tried to file a claim against it, that LLC would have no assets and likely already have been closed. I didn't think of this question until after the conversation and have been trying like heck to find an answer without posting...

Post: How to borrow money from friends/family

Jimmy SuszynskiPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Pittsburgh
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 28
Originally posted by @Ujwal Velagapudi:

The only expense, to my knowledge, you would be showing is the interest - not any principal or other payments. You 100% should do promissory notes, or some contract, even with close friends and family. To keep things simple you just accept the money from 3 different people, have 3 different promissory notes with each of them. Within the note, you personally are not guaranteeing (I'm assuming, since it is just close friends/family), but the business is. So the LLC you already created is the one borrowing the funds, and promising to repay, along with an interest rate. That interest is what will come into play in taxes. You don't need a new LLC for each loan. I would check on the tax aspect with a professional, but your situation seems to be pretty simple & straightforward.

Ok, so I was on the right track with a promissory note. Now, I would just need to waive the maximum interest rate of 6%? I want to be paying more than 6% to make it worthwhile for them. Six percent on $2,500 isn't very much, I would offer 10% annual, paid back when I sell/refinance. 

Post: How to borrow money from friends/family

Jimmy SuszynskiPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Pittsburgh
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 28

I have a handful of friends and family members that are interested in lending smaller amounts ( <$5,000) for house flips and BRRRR deals. This cash could help with interest-only payments and down payments. I formed an LLC to flip out of and am curious how I can borrow this money so that I can show this as an expense or loan so that I don't have to pay taxes on it when I pull it out of the LLC. I am in Pennsylvania, and the usury laws cap interest on amounts less than $50,000 at 6%.

Do I need to have a promissory note or otherwise included with my receipts come tax time? I would rather not create a new LLC with 3+ people or have to put these folks on the deed for such small amounts, but I would like it to be legitimate. I am curious about how one should handle money borrowed from friends and family when they have a business.

Post: How to house-hack this 4-plex??

Jimmy SuszynskiPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Pittsburgh
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 28

This makes a lot of sense. I am glad I asked because right now I am combining the BRRRR and house-hacking strategies but that is because the duplex was rented far under market value and needed cosmetic upgrades to fetch a higher ARV. It worked in this case since I got into the deal with next to nothing out of pocket (3.5% down minus seller's assist minus additional credits to cover repairs found during inspection). Increasing the property's value by 20% while living there and refinancing out of the FHA mortgage works well in this case.

But, getting financing for a 4-plex will be easier on the commercial side but will carry higher rates and shorter terms. As long as I make sure the numbers are solid before going forward and keep the rehab appropriate for the rents it will pull, I should be okay either way. I am learning that DTI seems to be the biggest killer for the BRRRR strategy.

Post: How to house-hack this 4-plex??

Jimmy SuszynskiPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Pittsburgh
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 28

Are you able to mix hard money with residential lending? I read that you are able to take advantage of residential conforming mortgages on properties held in a trust as long as you are the beneficiary but I don't know if there is a way for them to see how long you've been the beneficiary? 

I'm asking because it is much easier to obtain rehab money for properties when using an LLC, but, if I want to house hack a multifamily that needs a ton of work (hypothetically-perfect BRRRR scenario) I would need to fix it up using hard money and then refinance after.

I haven't heard of folks living in any of their properties owned by their company, is this possible/feasible?

    Post: Driving for dollars

    Jimmy SuszynskiPosted
    • Rental Property Investor
    • Pittsburgh
    • Posts 69
    • Votes 28
    Originally posted by @Jerryll Noorden:

    And all, 

    DMM is absolutely not as the person above me is making it seem to be.. AT ALL!

    ANYONE that has experience with DMM will attest to this. It is not at all as simple as, send mailers out , sit back and motivated sellers will call you.

    Seriously?!

    Good lord man.

    First of all, most of the callers will be people that are friggin PISSED OFF at you yelling at you swearing at you, threatening you, telling you "I will find out where you live", they tell you to go "love" yourself... very hard!, but they use an other 4 letter word, that doesn't sound quite as nice as "love".

    And then you are dealing with spending thousands of dollars, to find people.. .yup just "people".. meaning... the whole DMM thing is the most backward and retarded form of marketing that exists, next to bandit signs.

    See, you spend thousands on mailers, lists, and skip tracing (yeah, definitely not as simple as sending mailers and sit back), and with a less than 3% open rate,  .. means more than 97% of your money spent on these mailers PLUS skip tracing etc. etc, went to people that have ZERO intention of selling their house.

    YES.. the shear bulk of your dollar is going to people that have ZERO intention of selling to you!!

    Instead of spending a ton of money effort drama and headache,  and only AFTER you spend the money to find "people" only THEN are you going to ask them if they want to sell. If they don't.. you ALREADY spend that money  on them to find them. It is plain and simply STUPID! STOOOPID!

    Instead don't you think it  is a LOT better to ONLY spend money and effort AFTER you know they are serious about selling?

    No argument there right?

    Newbies..  stop jumping up rushing into things the second someone say something works. 

    Look my precious... SOOO many people are getting into this space right?

    ALL of them go do DMM. WHY would you stand out? Do you know how many letters a single seller gets from investors?

    And if one of these friggin investors does something stupid, like insult them or sends a stupid card, .. ALL OF YOU that send them a letter will be considered "idiots", just because one of you was greedy, impolite, rude etc. etc.

    Do what ever you all want seriously.. but for pete's sake.. THINK!!

    Do this the right way. Get yourself a website. Build authority and trust using that website, and you will become far more successful that way!

    Website --> Credibility --> SEO --> Facebook Ads/PPC --> Make money NOW!

    No offense.. but if after this message people are still going to do DMM... you deserve what is coming to you!

    Did you use carrot.com when you set up your initial site or did you build it from scratch yourself and optimize for SEO ? I spent a lot of time a few years back trying to get page rank on new websites using white hat techniques and link building. I'd imagine those skills will work the same for a wholesaler's website. I'd be interested to chat...I'm in a tough place at the moment and have to find a way to land at least one wholesale deal before March. It seems like a long time but with the holidays and COVID I can see that time slipping away.

    Post: Keeping track of leads - propstream

    Jimmy SuszynskiPosted
    • Rental Property Investor
    • Pittsburgh
    • Posts 69
    • Votes 28

    Hello everyone. I recently signed up for Propstream and really like the features. I do have a question about lists and how to use them.

    Once I make a list, either via filtering or driving for dollars, I'd like to skip trace them. Propstream is very expensive compared to other services. I exported the list and imported it to reiskip. After that, I wanted to import the contact info into Propstream but in order to do that I have to pay an additional 30 bucks a month or something.

    What do you guys do with skip traced lists once they're made? I was hoping to use Propstream for the bulk of my stuff but of course everything costs extra and it adds up quickly.

    Post: How Many RE Investors are Engineers?

    Jimmy SuszynskiPosted
    • Rental Property Investor
    • Pittsburgh
    • Posts 69
    • Votes 28

    Civil Engineer working in commercial construction management. Long hours and the pay per hour isn't what I thought it would be (salary -_-). At least the experience managing multi-million dollar projects and subcontractors is directly transferrable to REI :)