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All Forum Posts by: Jeffrey Stasz

Jeffrey Stasz has started 10 posts and replied 159 times.

Post: Seeking Guidance: Developing 15 Acres of Prime Mixed-Use Land in Charleston, SC

Jeffrey StaszPosted
  • Investor
  • Charleston , SC
  • Posts 160
  • Votes 142

@Ceasar Wright I am a General Contractor in Charleston. I am interested in discussing this further. What is the best contact info? 

Post: Looking for good relationships

Jeffrey StaszPosted
  • Investor
  • Charleston , SC
  • Posts 160
  • Votes 142
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @Jeffrey Stasz:
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

First choice you have is whether you hire a General Contractor to run everything, or do you act as the GC and hire all the Subs?

 @Joseph Nance you can't do that in South Carolina. We are a regulated market. Meaning GC's are actually licensed with the state. You can apply for a home owner variance but you cannot rent or sell the property for at least 2 years after the certificate of construction completion is issued. 


 So you cannot work as an Owner/Builder? Except on your own residence I guess, like California....?

Most investors don't know about this, good call....


 Yes. That is correct. And when you do get a variance as an Owner you cannot sell or rent the property for several years

Post: Looking for good relationships

Jeffrey StaszPosted
  • Investor
  • Charleston , SC
  • Posts 160
  • Votes 142
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

First choice you have is whether you hire a General Contractor to run everything, or do you act as the GC and hire all the Subs?

 @Joseph Nance you can't do that in South Carolina. We are a regulated market. Meaning GC's are actually licensed with the state. You can apply for a home owner variance but you cannot rent or sell the property for at least 2 years after the certificate of construction completion is issued. 

Post: Need Help Learning How To Build New Construction

Jeffrey StaszPosted
  • Investor
  • Charleston , SC
  • Posts 160
  • Votes 142

You need to find a GC who can recommend an architect and then work with the GC to get it built 

Post: New Construction Owner Builder - Construction Loan

Jeffrey StaszPosted
  • Investor
  • Charleston , SC
  • Posts 160
  • Votes 142
Quote from @Andrew W.:

Thank you for the insight.  My question is really on obtaining the financing.  What I am trying to do is construct the home while learning from my father-in law who has been a licensed home builder for over 30 years.  I don't want to have to associate my father-in law with the loan.  However, I can certainly just use him as the GC if that is the only way to get the loan.  I wouldn't call working with my father-in law who is a licensed builder circumventing the GC relationship.  Also, my local municipality in CT does not require the use of a licensed contractor for an owner/builder permit.  As far as insurance, as you probably know, it can be complex.  But ensuring everyone is properly ensured (including myself) is a given. Builders risk, general liability, etc. are all purchasable by the owner.

 @Andrew W. I think you are missing the point @Stuart Udis and I are trying to make. It's not can you finance this without a builder (of course you can) it's should you? And do you understand the long tail risk of a self build? 

If your intention is to live in the property and learn while you build it. Yeah. Good strategy. If your intention is to sell the property upon completion this is not a good strategy. 

1. Yes, CT will allow you to pull the permit as an owner/builder but a permit and inspections will not shield you from construction defect litigation. As an unlicensed builder your GL will not cover completed operations. So you will have naked liability here for 10 years. 

2. Most states with a license requirement forbid the subsequent sale or rental of an owner build for some period of time. Where these restrictions exist, they are recorded on the title. Meaning you will not be able to furnish a clean title within the time period. Without a clean title this property will not qualify for a conventional mortgage. 

3. Listing your father in law as the builder will not tie him to the loan. But it will tie him to the outcome of the build. See point's 1 and 2 above. 

So my question is what is your strategy here? If you are trying to build a construction business this is an excellent strategy. If you are trying to pinch pennies on a development project than you simply have a bad deal and need to bail. 

As I stated in an earlier post, the land value is already well short of the equity required for a construction loan. You will need to come up with an additional 15-25% of the LTC to get the loan. More importantly, as a first time builder, even with guidance, you are not going to hit your number. If the deal does not work with a 50% overrun in the cost of construction than the deal does not work. 

So. If the goal is to learn the business and start a portfolio. Great idea. If the idea is to save money by "being your own GC" this is a recipe for failure. 

Post: Partnering with a contractor to be able to get funding for new construction?

Jeffrey StaszPosted
  • Investor
  • Charleston , SC
  • Posts 160
  • Votes 142

@Nick Hummel 

you need to check with your building department. NC is a NASCLA state and build to rent is typically treated as a commercial project. So unless you already have a Commercial License you will not be able to pull the permit for this project. 

And if you plan on pulling it as an owner most NASCLA states have a 2-5 year period where the property cannot be rented or sold. This information is typically recorded on the title. 

Post: New Construction Owner Builder - Construction Loan

Jeffrey StaszPosted
  • Investor
  • Charleston , SC
  • Posts 160
  • Votes 142

@Andrew W. I would also mention the LTC for new construction spec is typically 40/60. Without experience you should expect closer to 50/50. 

Post: New Construction Owner Builder - Construction Loan

Jeffrey StaszPosted
  • Investor
  • Charleston , SC
  • Posts 160
  • Votes 142

@Andrew W.

I'm a commercial GC in the Carolinas. A heavily regulated market. I started in NY and know CT pretty well. 

The relevant license information can be found here

You can get GL from a service like Next or some other non-insurance insurance company (meaning they provide a COI but don't cover anything should something happen. 

If you are planning on selling this property I would strongly discourage you from going this route. Construction defects are common and implied warranties are the law of the land. So you will almost certainly be liable for any defects or deficiencies in the end product regardless of subcontracts and sub-contractors. 

If you are trying to be a GC and using this to build your portfolio it's a good way to go. If you are trying to save money this is penny wise but pound foolish. Better off to pay the 50-100% markup and move on. And YES 50-100% markup is the going rate. It does not matter where in the country you are, or what anyone tells you, if a residential GC has been in business for more than 10 years their gross markup is 50-100%. It's the math of the business. 

Post: Termite Damage, CL-100, and Seller Obligation in Charleston, SC.

Jeffrey StaszPosted
  • Investor
  • Charleston , SC
  • Posts 160
  • Votes 142

@Ben Richey General Contractor here. There is no way replacing a floor system is going to be 20K. Granted I work on more expensive stuff...but...20K to replace a floor system is just not realistic. More likely you are looking at 60K. Happy to chat on the phone if you want to DM me.  

Post: Why are brokers selling based on projected cash flow?

Jeffrey StaszPosted
  • Investor
  • Charleston , SC
  • Posts 160
  • Votes 142

Best bet is to cut purchase price by half. Especially in commercial. @Don-Carlos Moniz 5 cap might be true in his market but it makes no economic sense. Current risk free rate is close to 4. I'd imagine risk of holding a syndicated multifamily asset (post fees) is above 150-ish bps. Especially in Fayetteville. 

We have a generation of commercial folks that came of age post GFC with no real experience navigating appropriately weighted Cost of Capital. 

To be clear I'm not trying to pick on @Don-Carlos Moniz, he gave you a solid answer. It's more an indication of how much the last 10 years have detached the multi-family market from macro fundamentals.