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All Forum Posts by: John P.

John P. has started 16 posts and replied 416 times.

Post: Seller Financing rates/terms for residential sale?

John P.Posted
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  • Vacaville, CA
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Thinking to sell a rental house in Memphis for around $200k. Thinking to offer seller financing to increase interest in the property and I like some of the advantages of seller financing. Have never done this before. I intend to use a loan servicer as I assume they make sure that taxes and insurance are paid!? Curious what are common terms/rates/etc... these days? It would rent for about $1,500 fwiw. 10% down? Balloon in 5 or 10 years? 8% interest? 10%? I just don't know. Or do you base terms on down and their credit application? Any guidance would be appreciated.  

Post: Has anyone done business with Four Peaks Capital?

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  • Vacaville, CA
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Quote from @Jordan Moorhead:
Quote from @John P.:

I saw an ad for Wavemark Capital which led me to Mike Ayala on linkedin. That led me to this thread. Seems that the website Fourpeakspartners.com is not working any longer. Plus the reviews above sound very bad. Anybody have more recent info on these guys?


 I'm in the Wavemark income fund and am getting paid my distributions


 Thank you. It's good to have data points like that. 

Post: Has anyone done business with Four Peaks Capital?

John P.Posted
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  • Vacaville, CA
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Quote from @Peter Halm:

Invested with Four Peaks Partners 8 years ago in a MHP. Have never received a distribution and It’s extremely difficult to get communication and financials. 
I understand that not all deals pan out as pro forma says but at least yearly updates are essential, quarterly even better. Silence is not acceptable. 


YIKES!  That doesn't sound very good. 

Post: Has anyone done business with Four Peaks Capital?

John P.Posted
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  • Vacaville, CA
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I saw an ad for Wavemark Capital which led me to Mike Ayala on linkedin. That led me to this thread. Seems that the website Fourpeakspartners.com is not working any longer. Plus the reviews above sound very bad. Anybody have more recent info on these guys?

Post: Grocapitus - Anyone have experience with them?

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  • Vacaville, CA
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Quote from @Jay Bru:

Last week Neal and the staff at Gro Capitus let us all know that ALL of our Principals were at risk now in the RTP Nova project of the newly built Townhomes.  Originally it was only going to take a year after investing 3 years ago, but the excuses just kept building Quarter after Quarter with Covid Covid Covid, construction costs, interest rates, and then their Facebook Ads not working.  Even as early as this August, they were supposed to send us our original investment back, and then it really took a turn last week and when I finally got Neal on a Zoom call, he was talking another 2 years before it all played out.  The guy should be in jail in my mind, but even with the market and all the other problems that have come up, they could have been straight with everyone.  It went from getting our principal back in the August webinar to our entire principal being at risk a few months later.  The part that really upset me was their attitudes.  Poor us, we worked so hard, we've tried everything, were transparent, but yet we still don't know where things went wrong and why the building still has not been completed.  I really never thought it would come to this. He sounds so intelligent on webinars, but can't even calculate losses properly, how could he calculate profit?  It needs to be discussed in forums like this and shut Gro Capitus down.  


 I am truly sorry to hear this. I hope it works out better than it sounds. Good luck! 🍀 

Post: Has anyone used WealthAbility?

John P.Posted
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  • Vacaville, CA
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Yikes on those fees! I am all in favor of professionals charging for the value they provide but dang $20k-30k++ is a TON!  Obviously everybody has different incomes, complexity, etc.... 

We are looking for a new CPA, after many years with the same place, due to the ball being dropped too many times. Small stuff but balls dropped repeatedly. Actually, not all small stuff as I think of it. Anybody have an incredible CPA that they absolutely love? I don't care where they are located. Some element of tax planning, in addition to filing returns, would be great but not looking to spend $35k on that! Lol.

Post: Ashcroft capital - Paused Distributions

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Quote from @Jim Peret:

Open Door Capital paused distributions on a couple funds. I've been in their Sun Belt Fund for 18 months. I received 1% annual return one month and the next month they paused distributions. At least Ashcroft is not taking asset management fee and getting reduced property management fee. Open door Capital is just focusing on funding new funds and really not putting any extra effort into investor returns.


 I too have some money invested with ODC. Would be interested to see if they follow the lead of Ashcroft and pause/reduce fees!?

Post: 1031/DST/UPREIT (I can't verify the value)

John P.Posted
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  • Vacaville, CA
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Quote from @Robert Casper:

So I just sat with a friend who spent his career (decades) as a commercial bank loan officer, mostly in real estate, with a retirement career as an independent bank auditor. Together we looked at three DST from three different Sponsors. Each one had a Master Tenant Lease agreement with the DST. We tried to analyze financials with reference to the terms of the agreement. It's clear the Sponsors are shifting income to itself, but it is very difficult to know how much or make heads or tails of this. It is happening differently in each PPM so there is no consistent example to provide.

I thought the NOI is supposed to be distributed to the investor by their percent of units owned. The deals we looked at had Master Lease Agreements between the Sponsor or an entity of the Sponsor and the DST. In some, Sponsors have rent, over the Master Lease rent, or some other means, by agreement written into the terms of the PPM, inure to the Sponsor and in one some real DST expenses are being paid for by the Sponsor so income and expense is bypassing the DST I&E. It makes evaluation difficult to impossible.

I am wondering, if, as a general rule, the investor will find any DST that don't break the financials up like that. In one of these PPM, the proforma cash flow statement does not disclose the Master Lease Payment. Shouldn't a Master Lease Payment be considered a DST operating expense and therefore be reflected in the proforma, the banker has asked.

I have spent a lot of time trying to understand the whole 1031/DST/UPREIT space. For me fortunately I believe I have traditional security losses that equate to my capital gain, but I fear this DST industry has successfully pulled the wool over the eyes of retail investors who have a 1031 - 45 day count down and feel they have no other choice.

The debate can start here. I am just not going to participate.


I appreciate your post but not sure the answer is for the average person to do. What does the average dumb guy like me do? I can keep my single family rentals which, if I am being honest with myself, pay less than 5% cash on cash and require me to manage the property managers. Or I can sell and...? I have 1031'd to a TIC but it's hard for a small guy to have enough money to get into those deals. Thus, the realistic options are 1031 to DSTs or sell, pay tax, and invest in marketable securities!?

Post: Consolidated K1s and state income taxes

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  • Vacaville, CA
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Quote from @Basit Siddiqi:

I think you mean to save "Composite" return instead of "Consolidated"

Composite when dealing with a real estate fund may be a bad idea because you can potentially be forgoing all the suspended losses and therefore paying tax on the net gain at the end without factoring in past losses.

How much is your CPA charging for each additional state return to be filed?

Best of luck.


 That makes sense. However, they could do a composite return at the state level but not the fed?  Not a big deal at the state level. 

He charges too much and didn't give me a firm number. He said less than $500 per state. That is enough that if I only invest $100k or $200k it's not worth getting into additional state returns... hence my dilemma. 

Post: Consolidated K1s and state income taxes

John P.Posted
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  • Vacaville, CA
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I have looked at several different real estate investment funds to possibly invest some money. I won't name names as I don't think it matters.  For simplicity let's say they both invest in 5 states that do have state income tax reporting requirements.  For a small investment (let's say $100k) the incremental cost of my CPA preparing another state return takes away any value I get by the geographic diversification.  One of the funds said they do a "consolidated K1" and thus the investors do not have to file a state income tax return in those states. That sounds good to me.  The other fund said they do not do a consolidated K1 as that gets taxed at the highest rate and not all investors are at the highest bracket, have unique tax issues, etc....  Curious if anybody here has experience and/or knowledge on the consolidated K1?  Is it really as simple as by them filing that I don't have to worry about filing in those states?  TIA.