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All Forum Posts by: John Lyszczyk

John Lyszczyk has started 24 posts and replied 143 times.

Post: Is REI worth a divorce??

John Lyszczyk
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Unpopular opinion: Leave the people that don't move you forward or don't align with your end goals. It's a difficult thing to do, but the MOST necessary for your self esteem and happiness, which will ultimately get you in the right mindset to move forward.

Cut the cancer brother.

Post: Refinance Portfolio Lender?

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Originally posted by @Alex Bekeza:

@John Lyszczyk What's the total value of the portfolio?

Book Value is $329K. Current Market Value- $400,000-$425,000 conservatively. 

Post: Refinance Portfolio Lender?

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I have 4 properties that I would like to refinance into a portfolio loan. Two duplexes and Two single family residences.

Are there any lenders out there that will do this? Any recommendations?

Post: Why is Lumber so Expensive?

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Originally posted by @Christian Cramer:

Should we buy weyerhauser or rayonier?

I'm not a stock market expert, but if you didn't buy in March/April, then you missed the boat. The sky was falling around the beginning of April and I believe that was the best time to buy.
  

Post: Why is Lumber so Expensive?

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I noticed some BiggerPockets members asking about the rising cost in lumber and plywood, and given my background, I figured I wood (haha) weigh in on this subject. I currently work for a lumber company and I primarily sell to retail lumber yards, distributors, office wholesalers (jobbers) and General Contractors (GCs). We own several sawmills and treating facilties mainly in the midwest, but our services branch out nation wide. I primarily focus on a specific category called fire-retardant treated wood, which is found in all type 3 and 5 construction. This mostly entails the construction of multifamily housing, hospitals, schools, etc. However, I am exposed to different parts of the lumber business through one way or another.

Over the past few months we have experienced something that I have heard several veteran lumber traders call "unimaginable". Lumber and plywood pricing has sky rocketed to concerning levels.  GCs that were plan on framing this fall are already postponing construction until the market corrects itself. That means large multifamily and residential building is in a nationwide lull, and it's hard to say how long this will last. Below is my best (short) synopsis of how we got here today and how this effects us as Real Estate Investors.

The issues stemmed from the COVID shutdowns back in March when most construction projects were told to halt. The shutdowns did not include sawmills and treaters as we were deemed "essential" however, uncertainty lurked throughout the industry and many companies decided to lay off employees. Sawmills and treaters cut laborers to compensate for the anticipated lack of consumption and uncertainty within the business. 

Meanwhile, over 20 million people in America were gainfully unemployed as our lovely government started quantitative easing. Many of these Americans were making more money sitting at home on unemployment than actually working at their job they were "furloughed" from. This later made it difficult for sawmills and treaters to hire back a labor force. A large population of the country was forced into quarantine with a lot of time on their hands. In addition, they were given some bonus money (stimulus), and many people decided they wanted to build a deck. Seriously...it seemed like everyone in America decided to build a deck all at once.

The consumption started at the big box stores (Lowes, Home Depot, Menards) and Pressure Treated wood became the hottest commodity in the market. East coast building material suppliers and lumber yards were calling west coast treaters for Pressure Treated wood, and suppliers were buying it. Meanwhile, the big box stores started soaking up all the available fiber source in efforts to meet the growing demand. Order files extended  and suddenly the sawmills had to start producing more lumber and plywood. They slowly started their labor force back up and worked to meet demand, but little progress was made to increase supply.

Industry experts now grew concerned about the penned up demand from the construction shutdown. Just as the supply became scarce from the Pressure Treated lumber surge, construction started coming back as COVID restrictions were lifted. General contractors for large projects needed wood to continue and meet deadlines. As you can imagine, this generated more consumption as the growing demand cripple what was left of the existing supply. As a manufacturer, trader, or supplier, if you had wood on the ground you could sell for a PREMIUM. One year ago, the average price for general framing lumber was $2.88 per piece FOB the sawmill (composite average). Today, it is $6.56 per piece FOB the sawmill (composite average). One year ago, a truck of treated plywood cost $20,000, and today it costs $40,000. Prices have double the normal averages in just a matter of months. 

The craziest part is that there is no sign of it correcting itself anytime soon. It may be until the end of the year until we see some sort of market correction. Sawmill order files are extended out to October, but the buying still continues. PTS (Price at time of Shipment) orders are becoming more common. The demand isn't going away and everyone is growing more uncertain amid the record breaking run. 

What does this mean for Real Estate Investors? 

Most likely delayed projects and obviously the cost of building materials are going to rise. If you have a large renovation project you may want to evaluate your cost of materials before getting started. I can only imagine having to do a massive renovation project or addition that requires framing lumber. Yikes! 

The rising costs are mostly hurting new build residential and commercial construction. As for the projects expected to start in the fall, many GCs are shelving them until the start of the new year with hopes for improved purchasing conditions.

I would be curious to hear from other members to see if they have felt the impact of rising building material costs. I know that was long winded, but I hope it was insightful.  
  

Post: The US Economy Will Recover Quickly ??? Think Again !!!

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Not all states are hurting like California is...tax hikes and socialist ideology is driving businesses and individuals out of the state. This has been happening for quite sometime and a global plandemic reveals the weaknesses even more. 

Post: Is college worth it?

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College certainly opened my mind to different perspectives and I learned quite a bit, but I wish I would have taken advantage of networking better. I wish I focused on building and nurturing more relationships with my fellow classmates. 

Colleges need to adjust their curriculum, and maybe they already have, but there needs to be a focus on how to become a "businessman/women". NOT how to become a corporate ladder climber. In addition, they need to teach college students how money works, and how to start a LLC or corporation. We learned the terminologies, but never the process and hands on experiences. We need more Sales programs with courses on negotiation skills, networking, digital marketing, public speaking, salesmanship, etc. Colleges lack these areas and businesses are in HIGH demand of motivated sales people to drive the company's growth. A company can't thrive without a strong sales department. Just my two cents

Post: Can someone recommend Michigan Real Estate Attorneys ?

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Originally posted by @Wendy Patton:

Yes a guy name Rick Linnell is really good for that - ‭call my number below and my assistant patty can give you his contact info

Thank you, Wendy!

Post: House Hacking a Tri-plex or Quad-Plex

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Originally posted by @James Hamling:
Originally posted by @John Lyszczyk:
Originally posted by @James Hamling:

@John Lyszczyk while appreciate promoting the multi's and persons jumping on them, I would not say barely breaking even is ok. A person need to run the numbers to make sure it's a rock solid rental when they don't live there, and when living there make sure there is multiple profitable exit strategies. If it only works 1 way, walk away. And don't use hopeful numbers, use real world data, sold game plans. At least here in my markets that's whats wise action. 

I agree entirely regarding the action plan of running the numbers. As most of us do, I have analyzed every deal I've done thoroughly. I recommend everyone does that, and like you said, make sure you have profitable exit strategies. 

In this particular example, I don't agree that you NEED to be making money while you live there. Positive cash flow is nice when you're house hacking, but it may not be a reality. Your market might have hundreds or thousands of small multifamily rentals available, but mine does not. With that said, why wait around for something that may not exist? Not every deal is going to be a "grand slam" in terms of cash flow and profitability. One has to look at other benefitting factors such as experience gained and expense mitigation. The primary idea behind house hacking is to lower one's cost of living.This is very important for "newbie" investors to understand. I agree that profitability on the back-end at time of sale or back filling a tenant for positive cash flow is important- and very obvious. I think the notion that one HAS to have positive cash flow for a house hack while living there is unrealistic. It's the ideal scenario, but not always reality. 

I house hacked a duplex for two years while working two full-time jobs. All expenses included, I was responsible for $125-$150 per month. The house hack allowed me to save money to acquire more properties and eliminate $30,000 of student debt during this time frame. I took some massive steps forward financially and learned how to Landlord. 
 

You pose an interesting consideration, at what point is just getting into a deal a worth while action even though it has impaired performance vs sitting the sidelines and perpetually waiting. While I can agree in theory to this, a foundational law of REI is that: You make $ when you buy, grow $ when you rehab, reap $ when you capitalize ("selling" can take many forms).

So while agree "getting in" has value, there is a limit to financial loss value for "getting in". I have seen more foolish buying the past 12 months than in previous 20+ years combined, there is many arguing a 4% cap rate on SFH under 0% vacancy projections with ideal operational #'s including all self managed as a "good" thing because they just can't get a better buy. That is not worth it, sitting side-lines IS better than buying a payment is it not? This is called real estate INVESTING not real estate ACQUIRING.

If the #'s don't work, they don't work, and if all one can find is bad # properties then yes I say sit the side-line until they figure out how to find a good buy because fact is nobody "NEEDS" to buy bad deals, their is plenty of good ones out there just have to discover where they are and how to locate them. Again, my main farm markets have great #'s, right now today, anyone from anywhere can get in on these. AND their is other good markets too. 

Gotta go where the $ is, that's Investing 101. 

  I agree with you on having a limit off "financial loss", and for the purpose of context, I am referring to the cash flow of the property while occupying the house hack. If the numbers aren't perfect and you're running a small negative balance on a month-to-month basis, then one would have to justify that figure. In my real life example, I was able to justify paying $125-$150 per month as opposed to doing what everyone else in my life is doing, which is going into massive debt with the expectation of no return. Yes, you're buying a payment, but a $150 all inclusive housing expense versus renting or incurring a mortgage payment of $1,200-$1,500 per month is justifiable to me. House hacking is designed to offset the cost of living, and that's a great way to gain the experience needed to take on more properties. 

I can't argue with the conventional advice or "Foundational Laws" because I believe in it. However, when it comes to HOUSE HACKING you have to consider other factors such as family, job, timeline and life goals. If I have a great paying job near my family I'm not moving to Minnesota because you have great deals on duplexes. Just not happening. If I can find something that fits into these other factors and I can justify the payment, then there's a great opportunity to get started towards my real estate investing goals. Paralysis by Analysis is a real thing, and not good. What you're describing is a perfect scenario, and that just isn't realistic for everyone. I am by no means saying "Ah just wing it the numbers don't matter", but rather when it comes to house hacking, there are other factors that come into play.  

Post: House Hacking a Tri-plex or Quad-Plex

John Lyszczyk
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Originally posted by @James Hamling:

@John Lyszczyk while appreciate promoting the multi's and persons jumping on them, I would not say barely breaking even is ok. A person need to run the numbers to make sure it's a rock solid rental when they don't live there, and when living there make sure there is multiple profitable exit strategies. If it only works 1 way, walk away. And don't use hopeful numbers, use real world data, sold game plans. At least here in my markets that's whats wise action. 

I agree entirely regarding the action plan of running the numbers. As most of us do, I have analyzed every deal I've done thoroughly. I recommend everyone does that, and like you said, make sure you have profitable exit strategies. 

In this particular example, I don't agree that you NEED to be making money while you live there. Positive cash flow is nice when you're house hacking, but it may not be a reality. Your market might have hundreds or thousands of small multifamily rentals available, but mine does not. With that said, why wait around for something that may not exist? Not every deal is going to be a "grand slam" in terms of cash flow and profitability. One has to look at other benefitting factors such as experience gained and expense mitigation. The primary idea behind house hacking is to lower one's cost of living.This is very important for "newbie" investors to understand. I agree that profitability on the back-end at time of sale or back filling a tenant for positive cash flow is important- and very obvious. I think the notion that one HAS to have positive cash flow for a house hack while living there is unrealistic. It's the ideal scenario, but not always reality. 

I house hacked a duplex for two years while working two full-time jobs. All expenses included, I was responsible for $125-$150 per month. The house hack allowed me to save money to acquire more properties and eliminate $30,000 of student debt during this time frame. I took some massive steps forward financially and learned how to Landlord.