Anytime I have ever made an offer, I pencil the deal out, what can I offer that is safe and profitable to me. It never occurred to me to worry about whether an agent thought it was a low ball offer, too low, unrealistic, or whatever. What I focused on was what worked for me. I figured the seller would be able to figure out what was in his best interest.
The thing is that many realtors would not know a "deal" if it hit them in the face. You can get the statistics for MLS sales and what average percentage discount from list price they have actually sold at. This discount will vary depending on the market obviously, but I would say it might be 10-15%. Guess what? That discount doesn't work for me. And anything lower than that and the typical realtor is going to start saying "low ball", "unrealistic" etc etc.
When I think back to the deals I've done, yes, I've done a few through one agent, the listing agent. But a large number of my deals have been direct with the seller. Why? Because I spent some time trying to find "motivated sellers". Now this is a term we all bandy about, but generally speaking they aren't in the MLS.
Thinking about my deals, it's amazing how many were landlords, who were finally sick of it. A tenant had just torn up their house, they had spent a few months evicting. You know what? This guy wants to sell, and in the condition this property is in, he can't sell it retail. Now, can you find this guy? I think you can. When the eviction is filed sooner or later a list will be published. Some of these are going to be sick of the business, and ready to sell. They don't want to fix their property up. Maybe they don't even want to finish the eviction.
At one time I had a 2nd mortgage lender faxing me properties every day, wanting an offer for his defaulted note. This was in a very bad time in the California market, so you may not be able to do this at this point....but I'm just saying that if you think about it, think about your market, you may be able to figure out who is motivated.
Animal damaged properties. I've made some amazing deals here. You smell that cat urine, that's the smell of money. I can't tell you exactly how to find those, but I've had them referred to me by trash haulers, my lawyer, etc.
So where I'm going with this, if you've really got a motivated seller, you'll never forget it. They want out. And there's going to be something wrong that the realtor really can't effectively help with. So if your only source of deals is the MLS, I'd say you're missing out on the best deals. You find them by marketing in some way or another.
And when you make your offer to this motivated seller, you're going to pencil the deal out, you're going to offer a price where you can be well paid to deal with that seller's problems. After all, they can't deal with it, so they're turning to you . That's worth a price. They don't have to deal with you. If they don't, you just move on.
I would not structure my offers around what anyone thinks is "about right' for the market. Are you kidding? How would anyone know what's right for you and your business? Realtors not presenting your offer? Well, that is illegal in every state I'm aware of. But I know it goes on, some of these Realtors think they're on the deed. But where you need to get is to the property where the realtor has had no offers, where she is just wanting something to take to her seller.
You know, I mentioned the second mortgage lender defaulted loans. When they calculated what they're note was worth, the first thing they did after figuring out the fair market fixed up value of the property, was to haircut that price 10%, for a quick sale. Then they haircut it another 6% for the realtor commission. Then another 1-2% for various closing costs. And they would also deduct something for holding costs. Folks, these 4 numbers put the value of a property well below what any realtor typically sells a property for. We're already looking at a 20% discount, and we haven't gotten to the repairs or your profit yet. Food for thought.