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All Forum Posts by: Josh Wilson

Josh Wilson has started 6 posts and replied 16 times.

Post: Real Beer, Real People, Real Estate!

Josh WilsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 23

@Jameson Sullivan See you guys in a couple months XD I'm glad you're still going strong!

Post: What to Do with Little to No Income or Credit?

Josh WilsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 23

@Nathan Gesner This is not a discussion of thick skin. Basic, pilot training, and SERE were all times for that discussion. There is a time for the high pressure intensity that is associated with military training. That time is in a military environment. This is a forum, on the internet, centered around real estate. This is not the environment to, in an unsolicited manner, be treating unrelated civilians as though they were military trainees. I'm sure after 21 years of experience, you know that doing so reflects poorly on servicemembers. 

As to the advice I've given him, he's stated he's beginning a career as a real estate agent. He's beginning a career that he can do without spending years of his life or thousands of dollars on college. I'm not going to waste his time by telling him to go spend time and money on something irrelevant. So I offered a relevant, actionable step to take.

As to my qualifications as a real estate investor, I have none. I agree that he needs advice from people with experience. Obviously, that's why he's here. I have not spoken to anything except that which I know I have been successful in. Aside from that, I'm leaving other advice to those who have actual clout in the REI space.

Where I take issue with your response to him is when you, as the experienced person he wishes to learn from, sprinkles useful advice in between underhanded jabs like:

- "Pull your head out of the clouds" 

- "If you think you can invest in real estate while working part-time at a sub shop and living in mom's basement, you've on a path to major disappointment" 

- "You're looking at older, successful people and thinking you can take shortcuts. Borrow some money from grandpa, slap it down on a four-plex, and suddenly you're a millionaire. That shows how little you really know about life."

- "My 15-year-old son is washing dishes part-time and his monthly income is 3x yours."

What hurts my soul is to see someone having the guts to be transparent about his lack of experience and knowledge, and having dirt kicked in his face by a "big dog" for doing so. That reflects poorly on the BP Community, and now that you've dragged the military into it, it reflects poorly on us as well.

For the sake of not poisoning this thread, this will be my last response to you.

Post: What to Do with Little to No Income or Credit?

Josh WilsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 23

@Nathan Gesner Wow, reading your comment literally pained my soul. You offer good advice, but layer on so much condescension that it's impossible to even want to consider. He's 20 and asking for his first step. You can be helpful without speaking like a conceited, pompous turd.

Post: What to Do with Little to No Income or Credit?

Josh WilsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 23

Hey @Griffin McKisson, thanks for putting yourself out there! I'm 25, and remember going through a lot of those first questions, especially about what my first steps should be. It's awesome to see you going through steps now, because it shows you're thinking about the long game. Not a lot of people consider this stuff in early adulthood, so keep pressing to be ahead of the curve! :D

The first step I took was getting a credit card. The ONLY mentality you should have towards credit cards for the first 3 or 4 years is that they're a useful tool for building up a credit score. After my first two years, I had three credit cards - two that I swapped back and forth between using regularly to pay for basics like gas and food, and a third that I held on to for big expenses (car repairs, plane tickets, etc.). One of the biggest factors in your credit score is the average length of accounts, so having three accounts from early on will pay dividends in the future when you add accounts (think the average age of 4 accounts, vs the average age of 2 accounts). Another purpose for that was to build up credit with multiple lenders over time, because having a higher credit limit made my credit utilization lower. This is because if I have 2 cards at $500 limits, and spend $300 over the month on food and gas, you're utilizing 60% of your available credit. That looks risky to lenders, and negatively impacts your credit score. Conversely, if you have 2 cards with $1,000 limits and spend that same $300, you're only utilizing 15% of your available credit, which helps your score. As a rule of thumb, you don't want your credit utilization to be above 30%, but it's best below 10%. 

That's an easy first step to take - look for and get a couple of credit cards, which can help you establish credit responsibly. My first was the Discover It card, and my second was through my bank - both of which I still have. Most people will caution you to only get one, and to have a tiny credit limit on it to make sure you don't go bananas on unnecessary spending, but if you're already in the mindset to use your credit cards as a tool for building credit, I don't think you'll have any issues with it. I'll say it's okay to do, because I was okay doing it. Having taken those steps in the beginning were foundational in getting my score above 800 before turning 25. I guess you have to know yourself as to whether or not it's right for you, but know that most advice you receive will be VERY conservative, since nobody wants to give advice that could have even a hint of sending someone down a bad path. If you're comfortable being a little more aggressive and proactive about growing your credit score, I'd recommend the path I took.

The next step will be dependent on your inflow of cash. $400 a month won't be enough to get started for a while. I think it's actually important for you to recognize that it would be very difficult to start a real estate investing journey for at least a few years. I didn't get onto the train until last December, and I'm still learning and saving and getting myself to a proper financial position to make those investments. Even if you're not financially set to start doing this for 3 years, though, you'll be 23 and still be WAY ahead of the curve. So keep the long game in mind, remember you're ahead of the curve, and set long term financial goals to aim at. 

All that said, what are your expenses? What does that $400/month go to paying off? Additionally, are there other side hustles you can do to bring in more income? Great job, by the way, on gunning for your license!

Post: Go to school? Or keep working?

Josh WilsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 23

I'm a (very junior) C-17 pilot at McChord AFB in Washington, and while I'm active duty there are three reserve squadrons here that, if you interviewed with them and got accepted, you could live in Tacoma, still do RE investing, and do flight school for free. The flying is incredibly fun (low levels in mountainous terrain, flying down into the Columbia River Valley, etc), and it provides great opportunities to build multi-engine hours and be highly competitive for the airlines down the road. I guess the one caveat to that is you'd have to finish a Bachelor's degree to do it, but it's a well-paying W-2 with a lot of flexibility to allow for investing on the side.

I just got out here, and also just discovered RE investing. I'm working on entering a niche military market, part of which starts at pilot training bases. If you're interested, shoot me a message! It's a long term game, especially with finishing school to go to pilot training, but it's a great place to have opportunities like you're looking for.

Post: Real People, Real Beer, Real Estate

Josh WilsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 23
Thanks for putting this on, the event was a blast! I look forward to the next one!