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All Forum Posts by: Josh VanSetten

Josh VanSetten has started 6 posts and replied 40 times.

Post: First BRRRR complete

Josh VanSettenPosted
  • Investor
  • North Central Montana
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 17

There were lots of late nights working on this.  Inspired by @investorgirlbritt from Instagram we burned the candle at both ends when we could to get it done and not struggle to get our construction commitments done as well.

Post: First BRRRR complete

Josh VanSettenPosted
  • Investor
  • North Central Montana
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 17

@Mark Honeycutt , I would guess it would have been about a 60,000 renovation with material, labor, and profit for the construction company.  

Post: First BRRRR complete

Josh VanSettenPosted
  • Investor
  • North Central Montana
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 17

@Carl Amko , it was closed in February and rented in September.  We were not working on it every day.  There was quite a bit of time it sat because we had other commitments.  We did prepare for the extra holding costs.  

Post: First BRRRR complete

Josh VanSettenPosted
  • Investor
  • North Central Montana
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 17

@Edwin L. , I will have to look into that.  Thanks for the tip!

Post: First BRRRR complete

Josh VanSettenPosted
  • Investor
  • North Central Montana
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 17

@Vince Deangelo we refinanced at 123,000 which allowed us to pay off the first mortgage, which was about 56,000, our down payment of 18,000, our rehab cost of 26,000, and had about 16,000 left in cash we didn't have before.  Side note: we did not pay ourselves for labor costs on the rehab it was all sweat equity, but that 16,000 extra would have covered that.  We just absorbed the labor.

Post: First BRRRR complete

Josh VanSettenPosted
  • Investor
  • North Central Montana
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 17

Well we are not as fast as some, but we finished our first successful BRRRR property this September. Got it rented for 100$ more than I had planned in October, appraised higher than I thought, and turned out to be a great asset to hold for what I hope is a long time. Here are the details.

Found on MLS HUD foreclosure

3 bed 2 bath 2,000 sq ft

Purchase price: 75,400

Appraisal for purchase:. 107,000

Down payment:. 18,000

Rehab costs ( including holding) 26,000

ARV appraisal: 164,000

Refinanced: 123,000

Rent: 1,225

After tax cash flow:   After setting aside vacancy, repairs, cap ex is 115/month 

We used equity in two other properties to gat a line of credit for the down payment and rehab costs. We

paid that off and still had about 16,000 left.  10,000 of that will go into a reserve account for any repairs, vacancy, etc. (Even though we budgeted for that in our numbers).  We could have taken less out on the refinance and had better cash flow, but thought having a reserve would be better for us.

We are set up as an LLC, so the loans were all commercial loans. The rates and terms were not as good as a personal, but we had no seasoning and our local bank has been very good to our property company and construction company. The refinance was a 25 year ARM with a 2%cap adjusted every five years. 75%LTV

Take aways: we looked at a lot of places before we found this deal.  The rehab took longer than we thought, but since we are contractors for our day job we did it all sweat equity.  The project turned out better than I could have hoped, got a great renter and am very excited to start looking for a new investment.  

Post: 1st Rental Investment

Josh VanSettenPosted
  • Investor
  • North Central Montana
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 17

I would start running numbers on properties lots of properties. Read some books on REI if you don't know how. Brandon Turner's books are great.

Post: Requesting the removal and replacement of old attic insulation

Josh VanSettenPosted
  • Investor
  • North Central Montana
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 17

I would insulate over the top.  Just be sure not to cover any intake vent baffles on the eaves of the house.  That can cause moisture to build in the attic in your area.  

Post: Newbie from Great Falls, Montana

Josh VanSettenPosted
  • Investor
  • North Central Montana
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 17

Hi Nicholas,

I am from Choteau just north of Great Falls.  I closed on my first Great Falls property at the beginning of the year and am in the process of fixing it up.  We went through a lot of houses to get what I felt was a good deal.  Planning on brrrring it also.  Have you had any luck with the property search?  

Post: I’m 22 and I want to start now

Josh VanSettenPosted
  • Investor
  • North Central Montana
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 17

I think it's great you are starting out early.  House hacking would be the way I would start if I was single or married without kids, heck even with a kid.  If you haven't read @brandon turner's book on rental property investing, make that your first priority.  Then do one thing each day to move toward your goal.  Crunch numbers on deals and when you've done that for all the deals in your area and are bored, start getting your documents together: Tennant pre-qualification list, rental application, rejection letter, lease and addendums, etc... Crunchn numbers on more deals. Good luck!