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All Forum Posts by: Joshua Jones

Joshua Jones has started 10 posts and replied 33 times.

I applied with Elements and they will give me $137K at Prime + 0% or $200K at Prime + 1%.

And 3.99% promo for whatever I use in the first 6 months.

1% to be able to leverage another property or two seems fine, right?

Post: Which strategy to implement?

Joshua JonesPosted
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 12
Quote from @Michael Smythe:

@Joshua Jones

Beginning investors need to STOP believing all the fluff about rental investing, especially with the overheated real estate market trending to historic norms. Many believe unrealistic assumptions and often apply those assumptions to the wrong property classes.

In our OPINION (always verify yourself!):

Class A Properties:
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.
Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% the more recent norm.
Tenants: Majority will have FICO scores of 680+.

Class B Properties:
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, decent amount of relative rent & value appreciation.
Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% should be applied only if proper research done to support.
Tenants: Majority will have FICO scores of 620+, some blemishes, but should have no evictions in last 5 years

Class C Properties:
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, high cashflow and at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation. Can try to reposition to Class B, but neighborhood may impede these efforts.
Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, but 15-20% should often be used to also cover nonpayment & evictions.
Tenants: majority will have FICO scores of 560-600, many blemishes, but should have no evictions in last 2 years. Verifying previous 2-years of rental history very important!

Class D Properties:
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, all cashflow with zero or negative relative rent & value appreciation
Vacancy Est: 20%+ should be used to cover nonpayment, evictions & damages.
Tenants: majority will have FICO scores under 560, little to no good tradelines, lots of collections & chargeoffs, recent evictions.

Make sure you understand the Class of properties you are looking at and the corresponding results to expect.


What are the unrealistic assumptions?  I'm trying to not make any assumptions.

Post: Which strategy to implement?

Joshua JonesPosted
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Quote from @Billy Daniel:

Check out "How To Invest In Real Estate" by Joshua Dorkin and Brandon Turner.  It's a good overview of some strategies and ideas to help beginners start to set their path.  From there, there are several books about each specific strategy.  I recently read "30 Day Stay" to get myself ready to move into the MTR market.  


 I just bought 30 Day Stay.  But I've got 2 books to read ahead of it.  I'll get How to Invest in Real Estate.

Thanks.

Post: 1031 rules 3 properties?

Joshua JonesPosted
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Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Joshua Jones:
Quote from @Bob Stevens:
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So I have 45 days to make my list of 3 properties and 180 days to pull the trigger. 

But how do you effectively choose 3 properties that may not be on the market in 180 days. 

Stuff around here flies off the shelf. 


 Why would a property need to be on the market for 180 days ?? If you find properties you close, I REALLY think you need to connect with those doing deals and learn hands on,,,, 

I agree with that.

I get that you don’t have to wait 180 days, but how in the world do you time it so that you sell something and find something you want to buy at the same time. 

 Your network :) Deals are everywhere. I buy/ sell almost weekly. 


Your net worth equals your network. I agree. 

Just starting out here. Any recommendations on where to start growing my network. 

I’m wanting to stay local to the Indianapolis and surrounding areas of the start. 

Post: Which strategy to implement?

Joshua JonesPosted
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So I’m jumping into real estate investing. 

Have access to about $300,000 (not planning on using it all at once.)

There are so many different strategies, LTR, STR, MTR, BRRRR, tax lien foreclosure etc.

Is there a book or course I can buy that goes over all the different strategies?

Maybe a personality assessment test I can take that will match me up with the right strategy for me personally?


I know this about myself, I love learning, building systems, and the joy of completing the project…

But then I want to be on to the next thing. 

Quick communications is my love language, but I know I don’t want to personally be taking calls from angry tenants to deal with issues. (I know that’s where a good PM comes in.)

I’ve read half the Rich Dad series and took their course.

But still feel like the only strategy recommendation for a newbie is 2-4 Plex’s, which every other investor seems to be doing as well. 

Like the idea of BRRRR and MTR, but know little to nothing. I also have no rehab knowledge personally.

Any specific guidance on books, courses, masterminds, mentors etc for strategies and implementation?


I’d rather follow a proven system. 



Post: 1031 rules 3 properties?

Joshua JonesPosted
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 12
Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Joshua Jones:

So I have 45 days to make my list of 3 properties and 180 days to pull the trigger. 

But how do you effectively choose 3 properties that may not be on the market in 180 days. 

Stuff around here flies off the shelf. 


 Why would a property need to be on the market for 180 days ?? If you find properties you close, I REALLY think you need to connect with those doing deals and learn hands on,,,, 

I agree with that.

I get that you don’t have to wait 180 days, but how in the world do you time it so that you sell something and find something you want to buy at the same time. 
Quote from @Julio Gonzalez:

@Joshua Jones Have you considered a storage unit facility or a car wash? They are also a great candidate for cost segregation studies and have a very favorable depreciation schedule. As Joseph mentioned, mobile home parks are great as well. Here's some additional info on cost segregation studies if that's helpful.

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/51/topics/1113749-cost-...

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/51/topics/1124149-car-w...


 A long time ago before I got serious about investing, yes, I had thought about storage units. 

Just wanted to stay local as I started. 

What type of properties would max out depreciation?  

Would newer SFD's do better than an older duplex because of Cost segregation?

While I want to cash flow my properties, I have a higher need to offset my income taxes.

What should I be looking for?

Quote from @Emily Fackler:

Hi. This might not be the response you want, but meet with a few lenders and a cpa to get these answered. The experts always give the great options and they know the ins and outs of the business. 


 Well I plan to, but I was just looking for some initial guidance before getting to that point.