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All Forum Posts by: Joshua Herald

Joshua Herald has started 9 posts and replied 34 times.

@Theresa Harris

We are building a nice little nest egg from our newly found financial freedom. We have a number we want to hit in the next few months and from there we will be buying our first rental multi. After that, we will continue to develop our portfolio so I can become a stay at home dad.

@Erick A Nelson

Just keep pushing forward. Keep your vision. It was really hard for us when that contractor took 3k of our money. We spent over 2 years trying to recover it. But in the end, we moved on, pushed forward and here we are.

@Travis DeForge

Thank you so much.

It was 2014. I had followed a girl from Columbus Ohio to Cincinnati. We were living together for a while when be both slowly realized that maybe cohabitation was not for us. So I began looking for rooms to rent.. I was on the tenant end of a few people house hacking. Realizing the potential of passive income, I knew it was something I could do. So I took a risk. With little money or time, I became a member of the local REIA.

After a few weeks of being the shy one in the back of the room, I started asking around. Somehow, one night I was introduced to a young lady that would fundamentally change my outlook on life, wealth, and avoiding the rat race I was so desperately chasing.

She said that she had a house that may fit what I was looking for. We eventually drove over and I immediately said no. The bushes were overgrown, the kitchen, bath, and fixtures were all from 1960. Ugly green carpet. Strange room with no purpose. It was a mess. I couldn't do it. It was too much. I owned little to no tools, i had never hung drywall, and my painting experience was limited to watercolors.

We moved on to a few other houses and while I'm sure her patience was running thin, she asked me to look at the first house again with an open mind. She taught me how to look past the peeling wallpaper, the missing appliances and the pet urine smell. Somehow, she convinced me of the houses potential.

She agreed that they would fix up the house enough that I could get an FHA loan. Kind of a Pre-Hab. I helped pick out all of the furnishings for the bathroom and kitchen and we were off.

I’ll never forget the first night in the house.I slept on a bed that came with the house in the back bedroom trying to silence the voice inside my head saying “what did you just do? You’re going to fail”. I would get home from work and .. I guess work. She and her boyfriend at the time would leave me a list of things to do. I would work until 11pm any night that i wasn't traveling for day job.

The renovation took over 6 years of on again, off again progress. Some years more than others. It saw over 12 different tenants that helped me house hack. The work was done mostly by myself but once my wife came into the picture, things really took off.

She is a firecracker. She is a school teacher which is a huge asset in a relationship with me and my childish antics. The first night I brought her over, the conversation before entering the house was a 10 minute preface of why there is building material everywhere, dust in the sink, an old broken fish tank in my bedroom. I’m still amazed she didn't run away screaming. I knew my vision, she believed in me and progress came quick… until a year ago, May 12 2018.

We had started a family and nothing is more motivating than getting scolded by the wife when she finds tools laying around within reach of the new bundle of joy.

Here is a list of the renovation tasks

Replaced every piece of trim in home (yes, every single piece)

Build a rear covered porch

Replace gutters and soffit

Replace water heater

Replace all windows

Refinish hardwood floors

Replace all doors in home with prehung solid core doors

All new hardware

All new kitchen and bath

Add a master bath with soaking tub (with inspections)

Add a master closet

Rewire master (with inspections)

Replace master carpet

Install hardwired fire alarms

Install recessed can lighting throughout.

The list goes on and on.

I used a total of 2 contractors. One of which took me for over 3k. (but now, even my lawn guy signs an agreement) The lessons learned from this house will guide me for the rest of my life. I know what I will and won't do. I learned the value of my time. I learned that sometimes it really sucks to live in a flip. I learned that everyone thinks you’re crazy and that you will fail.

With all of these lessons, the biggest I took from this experience is how insignificant the frustrations are. On my last day in the house (yes we sold it about a month ago) I was taking final pictures and reliving some of my most difficult times. That corner I assumed was square but my cabinets showed me otherwise. That copper pipe that wouldn't take solder and leaked 5 times before I got it. Messing up the last piece of trim in a room only to find out it was the last you had and Home Depot closed 6 minutes ago.

When my wife and I stood in the front yard with our baby in our arms, none of it mattered. A dream had came true. Not a blessing, Not luck, But a dream that we tackled together. All we wanted was to make enough money from the house to pay down my student loans.

But as of 11:45am today when I hit the “process payment” my wife and I owe NOTHING to anyone. Cars, Cards, Loans it's all paid. The feeling of those chains breaking is indescribable.

If you are reading this, I want to make something clear. This is not a get rich quick business. But it is a way for average or even below average people to get ahead in life. Neither my wife or I came from money. I grew up lower middle class. I was the first in my family to go to college and at graduation I owed the government and Wells Fargo over $65,000 and I had a sub par education making less than 30k/year.

Put together a plan, Join REIA, Commit, Succeed

You can do this.

I will try to get some pictures up here later.

intrest is 5.6% the down payment is 3.6 sorry

I am struggling to make sense of this deal.

I have solid numbers from the bank.

PMI would be 136/m

Tax is 459/m

insurance is 80/m

currently the 4 units bring in  $2400/month

My loan is for 200000 and intrest rate is 3.6%

We were planning on staying in one unit so subtract 500/m and we would be negative cash flow on day one. 

The bigger goal was to stay in the bigger unit that brings in 1000 and that would lower my cash flow to - 650/month. I dont want a house payment. 

This looks like a bad deal..

The report below is assuming only 1400/month in rental income.

How do my numbers look?

View report

*This link comes directly from our calculators, based on information input by the member who posted.

Post: Lesson learned. . . seeking encouragement

Joshua HeraldPosted
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  • Votes 55
@Samantha Miller I ran into this myself. My local government sent me a document telling me to stop renting. They said they would need to inspect the house each time a new tenant started to rent. Once I called and made it clear that I was living there, everything was good. I looked at it like this. If you fell on hard times, are they really going to come after you for having a sibling or friend living with you helping to pay rent? No! Now if you are entering into contracts and charging deposits, you might have issues.

Greetings, 

My wife and I are making an offer on our first multi family this week. We both have full time jobs and make decent money 100k+ combined. Our credit is well above 750 each. The loan for the $210,000 house was not an issue, the originator said we could afford a much more expensive house. 

Enter my dilemma, I am short on time and as of 3 months ago we started paying down our dumb debt. We eliminated credit cards, a truck , a bed (yeah I know), and most of the other vehicle. Our goal was to keep at least 3k in savings for emergencies. The loan we have chose is an FHA with 3.5% down. We can come up with the money, that's not the issue. The issue is the 6 month requirement for the money to have been in the account and no "matress" money.

I have a nice retirement account with fidelity 50k+ that the broker for my loan mentioned to get the down payment. As long as the loan was repaid within 60 days, there are no penalties or fees. I have looked around this morning and found a lot of info on IRS.gov and investipedia on how to do this correctly to avoid a distribution charge and trigger other fees. 

My other question is : would it make more sense to just pull a personal loan for the amount? 

Im looking at $7500 for the down payment.

Post: Getting My Partner (wife) Onboard

Joshua HeraldPosted
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  • Votes 55

She made a comment that I don't necessarily  agree with. She said " I think that all of our properties should be ones that we would feel safe living at. Just in case something happens, and we need a place to stay, we wont be worried about it" 

I can't disagree with this any more. With the right property mgmt in place, we will never interact with a strictly investment property. 

For now Im going to look for a duplex that i can manage and then begin looking for strictly REI properties.

Post: Getting My Partner (wife) Onboard

Joshua HeraldPosted
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 55

Thanks to everyone who contributed to this. Now that I have had some time to calm down and get over my first lost deal (we declined to make an offer), I agree with all of you. This is a business that I have invested thousands of $$ and many hours educating myself on REI. Working with her, she tends to lean on me to understand what the purchasing agent is talking about. I am shifting my focus onto duplex homes or SFH. We both realized that our nice house in a good neighborhood with off street parking and a nice yard is something we cant expect and are willing to make those sacrifices to become financially free. House hacking is one way we can start our portfolio and cut our teeth without jumping into a 20 unit building and getting things wrong. We have also been passing around the idea of a few flips to make some money for the downturn coming. I realize as I type this that we need to focus our energy onto a true business plan and stick to it. Again, thanks to all who contributed.