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All Forum Posts by: Josh Middendorf

Josh Middendorf has started 4 posts and replied 11 times.

Post: Looking for investor friendly managing broker

Josh Middendorf
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  • Waterloo IL
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Marian Huish:

My advice @Josh Middendorf would be to focus on what you know best, Construction, and hire a professional Realtor to handle your sales. It will end up costing you much more while trying to save on commission.


 After talking with many people like yourself, I have came to that decision. Thank you for your advice!

Post: Looking for investor friendly managing broker

Josh Middendorf
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  • Investor
  • Waterloo IL
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Marcus Auerbach:
Quote from @Josh Middendorf:
Quote from @Marcus Auerbach:

@Josh Middendorf that's a bad idea. It is very easy to get licensed, but not very easy to get good at what you do. (I would know, because I got licensed as an investor first, but fortunately joined a large brokerage and the first thing I learned was that I don't know anything). 

A larger brokerage will supervise your first 10 or so transactions to make sure your are not getting them, yourself or clients in trouble. What you are looking for is a fly by night outfit, usually a 1-5 people brokerage with no systems or training. There are plenty and they give the industry a bad rep.

You would not hire yourself for a good reason, just like you would not hire a "plumber" who did an online course to learn his trade.

Great insight, just want to make sure I understand exactly what your saying. By joining a brokerage that is a smaller wouldn't you inherently limit you recourse's? Also, why would a smaller brokerage want to hire someone as you stated, who is a fly by night agent? hopefully im understanding you correctly, thanks.

 I am calling tiny brokerages fly-by-night; the new agent is just green. They will hire anyone who is willing to split commission with them, but they don't have anything to offer in terms of training, support and legal/compliance reviews. 

90% of bad interactions I have are with these small outfits. When an agent from a larger firm screws up (and thinks they didn't) or ghosts a deal (does not respond for a week to emails, texts or phone calls), I can call the supervising broker and trust they get things straightened out. With a one man show brokerage there is nobody to call except the State Board but that's a long process and the transaction is lost or goes into litigation.

80% of the deals get done by 20% of the agents and you can ask any of the top 20% what they think of the other 80%. I would be in favor of a minimum number of 24 deals per year to maintain your license, this would reduce the number of part time an amateur agents greatly and improve the reputation of the industry.

You are in construction; you would not hire a weekend warrior with a nail gun as a framing carpenter and send him to frame a house by himself. Imagine what the city inspector would find!


 Couldn't agree more, thank you!

Post: Looking for investor friendly managing broker

Josh Middendorf
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  • Investor
  • Waterloo IL
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Marian Huish:

So if you’re looking to get new license, you would be getting your real estate license not a broker license as most states require a minimum experience of at least two years before becoming a Broker @Josh Middendorf. Why are you getting licensed if you don’t plan to sell real estate?  There are many investor-friendly brokerages out there but of course they will want to make money from their time in training they invest in you.  Many brokerages won’t take on part-time agents who aren’t committed to selling to the public so I understand your challenge. You may want to consider eXp Realty which is nationwide, but again, you would need to produce something for the Brokerage beyond your personal sales. You might also consider working referrals as many agents can make a good living just connecting buyers and sellers with other agents and taking a 25% commission split. Happy to have a conversation if you’d like further advice.  Otherwise best of luck!


 I plan to sell real-estate within my already established construction company, and my own investments. But more importantly being a "young" investor I feel that a license would provide me with a level of credibility. I would love to hear your opinion, thanks. 

Post: Looking for investor friendly managing broker

Josh Middendorf
Pro Member
Posted
  • Investor
  • Waterloo IL
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Marcus Auerbach:

@Josh Middendorf that's a bad idea. It is very easy to get licensed, but not very easy to get good at what you do. (I would know, because I got licensed as an investor first, but fortunately joined a large brokerage and the first thing I learned was that I don't know anything). 

A larger brokerage will supervise your first 10 or so transactions to make sure your are not getting them, yourself or clients in trouble. What you are looking for is a fly by night outfit, usually a 1-5 people brokerage with no systems or training. There are plenty and they give the industry a bad rep.

You would not hire yourself for a good reason, just like you would not hire a "plumber" who did an online course to learn his trade.

Great insight, just want to make sure I understand exactly what your saying. By joining a brokerage that is a smaller wouldn't you inherently limit you recourse's? Also, why would a smaller brokerage want to hire someone as you stated, who is a fly by night agent? hopefully im understanding you correctly, thanks.

Post: Looking for investor friendly managing broker

Josh Middendorf
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Posted
  • Investor
  • Waterloo IL
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3

I'm just using this for my personal investments. I have the opportunity to be apart of many transactions in my construction business, so that's why I kind of walk the line between a investor and "realtor". 

Post: Looking for investor friendly managing broker

Josh Middendorf
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  • Investor
  • Waterloo IL
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3

Hello everyone, I'm currently in the process of getting my real estate brokers license.  My biggest issue that I'm faced with is what brokerage is willing to take on a investor and not a true agent? Also is there a way to sign with a brokerage that is not listed in my home state (Illinois). Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Post: Real Estate Groups Near St. Louis

Josh Middendorf
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  • Investor
  • Waterloo IL
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3

Thank you, @Brian Miller I will definitely take your advice and come to those meetings!

Post: Real Estate Groups Near St. Louis

Josh Middendorf
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  • Investor
  • Waterloo IL
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3

I am looking to connect with investors located around the St. Louis Area. Any advice or groups/meet ups would be greatly appreciated!

Post: How does a beginning investor scale with small capital?

Josh Middendorf
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  • Investor
  • Waterloo IL
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3

Thank you to everyone for your great advice, I will definitely take everything you've told me into consideration!

Post: How does a beginning investor scale with small capital?

Josh Middendorf
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  • Investor
  • Waterloo IL
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3

I am a new investor located around the St. Louis Area. I Currently am in the process of my first deal which is a fix and flip. My expected ROI is $35,000, I am looking for advice from experienced investors who have scaled there portfolio using small amounts of capital. I am currently planning on doing a 1031 exchange with the gained capital and investing into a rental property using an FHA loan.

Any advice is greatly appreciated!