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All Forum Posts by: Josh Fugle

Josh Fugle has started 4 posts and replied 15 times.

Post: long term buy and hold looking to partner with flix and flipper

Josh Fugle
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  • Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 11

Greetings,

I am looking for solid people to work with. I am interested in the long term buy and hold and do not have the time/exp to fix, flip, and then rent. would like to find someone we can work together to find deals that need fixing, agree on price that we can refinance to that still lets me cash flow and you get your well deserved check for fixing.  I regularly find deals that would work and we can both grow. 

-split purchase price expenses and rehab costs

-refi to amount i can still cashflow after paying the bills,

- I leave my 20% in the house and you get paid or be creative and leave 15/5 split and I buy you out over time. lets write it down and make some deals!   

Post: First Multifamily Investment

Josh Fugle
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  • Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 11

what was and now is the property renting at? 1b1b? are you self managing and what are you using to do that?  trying to find a 4-8plex that cashflows more than 1000 is rough. and to make it not a section 8 is even harder it seems

Post: Reinvesting in the business (How to structure paying self)

Josh Fugle
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  • Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 11

@Michael Plaks

Thanks for being real. I’ll take that picture opportunity too!

Dti ratio for helocs and being too “new” are my problems. Finding MFs that work great but can’t get the downpayment is frustrating as ever. Any advice for that would be appreciated

Post: did you pick your market or did it pick you? All-arounder looking for a market

Josh Fugle
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  • Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 11

 Maybe I’m crazy but I read your post different than most of the others. Many here are talking about Ohio and I think you asked what kind of market. If that’s the case I’ll tell you what happened with my journey. I suffered from shiny object syndrome also until one came up and slapped me in the face. It was a home run from the start. It was a mobile home park. Now it’s one of many land lease communities that we have or will have. So I buy MHPs and turn them into communities where people want to live. I might even have to buy one in Columbus since it seems to be the place to be these days. I haven’t really deviated from this but I have been looking at some self storage and RV parks lately. I just haven’t found one of these that have slapped me in the face yet. 


 I have heard great things about MHPs. what kind of numbers do you see? how do you go about finding these deals? would love to talk to you more about it. 

Post: did you pick your market or did it pick you? All-arounder looking for a market

Josh Fugle
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  • Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 11
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Josh Fugle:

I am struggling to find a market that fits me. SFH, small multi, apartments, industrial, car washes, laundry mats, storage. I have always been a generalist, master of none skilled at most. good CoC seems easy enough to come by based on the calculators 7-8% on industrial 25-30% on apartments. SFH in the 10-14% and everything else in between.

how did you find your market and what has made you stick with it so far?  have you thought about changing and are waiting to pull the trigger? 


 Ohhhh no. We're talking about picking markets.........Don't you dare say Columbus bro. Don't you do it!!!!


 Columbus or bust!!!!!  lol I’ve seen plenty of people talk that way. Haven’t joined them yet. 

Post: did you pick your market or did it pick you? All-arounder looking for a market

Josh Fugle
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  • Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 11
Quote from @Samuel Diouf:

Why not invest in Dayton? There is an abundant amount of deals beating the 1% rule there. The price to enter is extremely low compared to other markets in the U.S. and the cash-flow is high.

I am looking here for sure just trying to get an idea of how and why people focused on the markets they did. 

Post: did you pick your market or did it pick you? All-arounder looking for a market

Josh Fugle
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Posted
  • Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 11
Quote from @Jonathan Greene:

You aren't struggling because you can't find a market, you are struggling because you have shiny object syndrome, which you call being a generalist. If you are interested in "FH, small multi, apartments, industrial, car washes, laundry mats, storage" you aren't focused at all. You can't compare those properties so what you are doing is looking for a diamond in the rough without doing the due diligence. Your parameters on assets are way too wide.

Also, if live in Dayton, you live in a hot state for investing. Why are you looking for properties within a 30-minute radius of you? There are surely cash flow opportunities. Of your assets, which one do you you like the most? Which will you be proud to own? If you don't know, figure that out.


 I absolutely agree with you. I’m looking for home runs everywhere. Hence the post, I want to know what got others to their specialty to help me pick my focus point.

I think My end goal is to get to apartments but without exp and outside investors that isn’t feasible.  so how do I get there, small sfh and section8 till I can get to 5+ Multis, then 20+, then 100+? Is that path or is there a better way to get to my end goal simpler?   

I’m not looking for the get rich quick scheme, I’m looking for how to focus my time best. And why others did what they did.

Post: Ready To Get Started In Ohio!!

Josh Fugle
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  • Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 11

Same question for the three of you I guess. If we are new and not getting 30 per door and 10%CoC, how would you use OPM for deals that don't have enough rhab equity to fix and refi to pay back your downpayment loan?

Post: Ready To Get Started In Ohio!!

Josh Fugle
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  • Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 11
Quote from @Engelo Rumora:
Quote from @Josh Fugle:
Quote from @Engelo Rumora:
Quote from @Michael P.:

I’m looking to build my team in Ohio. I’ve heard that Columbus, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Canton, Akron, Dayton, and Toledo are good markets to invest in.



I keep hearing Columbus is by far the best market in Ohio. All other Ohio cities suck because they have a declining population 🤷‍♂️

 

so your saying an apartment complex in Toledo wouldnt be a good purchase now? what if it was at 65k a door?



I think $65,000 a door is pricey for multifamily.

I'm buying stuff for $25,000 a door and with rehab $35,000 - $40,000 per door.

Thanks 

 Wow 35-40 would be great. Most deals I’m finding are 80-90 but that is 3/1 nearly turnkey sfh or sub 30 apartments 

Would you mind if I DM to ask about my comps? 

Post: did you pick your market or did it pick you? All-arounder looking for a market

Josh Fugle
Pro Member
Posted
  • Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 11

I am struggling to find a market that fits me. SFH, small multi, apartments, industrial, car washes, laundry mats, storage. I have always been a generalist, master of none skilled at most. good CoC seems easy enough to come by based on the calculators 7-8% on industrial 25-30% on apartments. SFH in the 10-14% and everything else in between.

how did you find your market and what has made you stick with it so far?  have you thought about changing and are waiting to pull the trigger?