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All Forum Posts by: Joseph Hossenlopp

Joseph Hossenlopp has started 9 posts and replied 40 times.

Post: Minoan to furnish rental properties

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Thanks for all the input! I have shifted gears on my plan- I purchased a LTR (A Triplex) in Rochester, NY. My daughter went in on it with us- she will own her unit, and we are renting out the other 2 units. So, we are landlords now. Still thinking of a STR down the road....

Post: Minimum CoCROI for a owner occupied Duplex or Triplex?

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I am looking to buy a Duplex or a Triplex, and have one unit owner-occupied.  What would people's minimum CoCROI be?  Curious, as I am doing many different scenarios.  Thanks for your advice!

Joe

Post: Investment property with daughter

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Quote from @Wesley W.:
Quote from @Joseph Hossenlopp:

Hello!  I am interested in getting a Duplex, Co-owning with my daughter.  She would live in 1/2, and I would rent out the other half.  I would put down the down payment & closing costs, and she could repay her 1/2 of those over time to me.  My question is, for calculation purposes, would I include her payments to me as income?  How about her Mortgage payment? Thank you for any feedback!

For your own deal analysis purposes, I would count her rent payments, if that's what you're asking.  In terms of accounting, her repayment of acquisition costs probably are not considered income, because they were paid by you at closing and you are just settling up between the owners of the property (I assume she will be on the note.).  I'm not a CPA, but from my understanding I think you can deduct half the expenses and declare half the income of the property (assuming units are similar in square footage), since only half of it is in service as a business venture.  If her rent is substantially lower than market, I think that muddies the water a bit.  What is your goal?  To try and mitigate the tax liability of the property?


 Wesley,

Thanks for your reply!  I am currently looking at a tri-plex with 1 3-bedroom and 2 1-bedroom units.  Jess would live in one of the 1-bedroom units.  My goals are to help Jess out with getting a place for her (she has no savings for the down payment) and to have rental income for us.  

Joe

Post: Investment property with daughter

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Quote from @Trevor Naumann:

yes i would include her payments as income. Even though you will be utilizing the property in a unique way i would still analyze on the basis of purchasing it solely as an investment so that you have more exit strategies in the event things change. Maybe your circumstances would allow you to be a bit looser with your buy box but it would probably be nice to know the property works as a long term rental, house hack, could be resold etc. Hope that helps


 Trevor,

Thanks for your reply!  I am currently looking at a tri-plex, so Jess would live in one, and I would rent out the other 2.  

Joe

Post: Investment property with daughter

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Hello!  I am interested in getting a Duplex, Co-owning with my daughter.  She would live in 1/2, and I would rent out the other half.  I would put down the down payment & closing costs, and she could repay her 1/2 of those over time to me.  My question is, for calculation purposes, would I include her payments to me as income?  How about her Mortgage payment? Thank you for any feedback!

Post: STR Lakefront Property

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If you click on the + on the PDF you can read it!

Post: STR Lakefront Property

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Quote from @Mark Wright:

Which part of NY are you in? Are there any potential STR regulations that would come into play?

Best of luck this weekend with the showing. 


 Mark,

I am in Rochester and am looking in the Finger Lakes area, less than an hour away. I have not run across any regulations, except the ones that have had an HOA.

Post: STR Lakefront Property

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Quote from @Lisa Lister:

I am a Realtor in Branson Missouri serving many investor clients nationwide. I use historical data from the listing agent or my client (if I am listing) to analyze the property. I find that some programs bump up PNRs to encourage investors, however working with my clients I want them to be pleasantly surprised, rather than disappointed at the end of the year. We have a 10 month season here, and my conservative numbers are always based on 160 night per year of STR income and I split the PNR into peak and off peak (usually 50-50). Hope that helps!


That’s great!  I am being pretty conservative then. I just kinda guessed on that number. I did a deep dive- checked out all the lakefront properties of the lakes I’m looking into- then did a spreadsheet with bedrooms, baths, # of beds & # sleeps to compare to the properties I’m looking at. Think I’m on the right track. Pretty competitive out there now but I’ll keep looking. 

Post: STR Lakefront Property

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I am looking to purchase a Short-term Rental.  I am looking at Lakefront property on Saturday.  I am in NY, so the closing costs are a bit higher.  I did an analysis on BiggerPockets, any feedback would be appreciated!  I did the comps, and properties this size average $300/night.  I figured I could rent out 150 nights/year, so that's where I got the rental income.  Could not figure out how to add the file as an attachment, so I copied & pasted.  Little hard to read, sorry.

Post: Minoan to furnish rental properties

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Quote from @Yiwei Cheng:

I've used Minoan in the past.  Some of the discounts are good, but just be aware that you will be paying a payment processing fee on top of the discounts.  For example, it may be 20% off (retail only not on price discounts/clearance unless specified) but then 3% CC payment fee or ACH fee.  You will have to follow up with them on shipping as well if there are any delays or issues since they are the middleman placing the order for you.  


 Thanks for the info!  I will definitely look into this further.