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All Forum Posts by: Jorge Caceres

Jorge Caceres has started 5 posts and replied 23 times.

Post: Utilities included worth the risk?

Jorge CaceresPosted
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Quote from @Chris Seidler:

Our medium term lease covers utilities but includes a cap for electricity.  Its generous and I don't think anyone would go over it with normal usage.  If someone was over during a high consumption month I'd give then a notice/warning for the first month along with some energy consumption tips then tack it onto the rent.


 Thank you Chris for the reply. How did you come up with the cap amount? average +/- a percent? 

Post: Utilities included worth the risk?

Jorge CaceresPosted
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Quote from @Colleen F.:

@Jorge Caceres  how big is this property?   I would definitely go with a utility cap.  You aren't trying to nickel and dime people but just to curb abuse so it should be generous. The issue will be if you have a number of rooms and a single abuser.  I have a long term rental where I had to put in a clause that I would fine for open windows in winter. That tenant is gone now but it is something I go over on occupancy as unacceptable. 

Hi Colleen, the property is a 2/1 and at this point I am only considering a single contract. After reading all of the replies, I think a cap is the way to go. Monitoring open windows isn't feasible in my case, but I can definitely monitor daily electricity usage online 

Post: Utilities included worth the risk?

Jorge CaceresPosted
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Hi Bonnie, thank you for your input. I'm hesitant to set a utility cap, as I worry that disclosing a specific amount (like $500) could deter potential tenants. I agree with you that calculating a reasonable average is the better strategy. Because I'll be responsible for the utility account, I'll be able to monitor daily usage and address any excessive consumption directly with the tenant. The lease agreement could include a clause stating that any excessive utility consumption would be brought to the tenant's attention, and define what is considered "excessive" somehow. 

Post: Utilities included worth the risk?

Jorge CaceresPosted
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Quote from @Brian Austin:

Hey, that's a good question. I don't have experience renting in California, but if your competition includes it, I'd probably want to consider it too. If your cheaper but I have to worry about utilities that I have to also possibly set up that could be as high as $1000 a month, that definitely factors into my decision.


Thanks for your thoughts, Brian. It definitely seems like utilities need to be included in the rent for MTRs. A nurse on a six-month hospital assignment isn't going to want the hassle of setting up a utility account.

Post: Utilities included worth the risk?

Jorge CaceresPosted
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Hi fellow BP fans,

Considering mid-term rentals (MTR) for my single-family home (near two hospitals, targeting traveling nurses/doctors). Most MTRs in my area include utilities, but my California property has very high utility costs (PG&E - could easily be $1000/month with regular AC/heat use). Is it best to simply increase rent by a fixed amount (e.g., $700) to cover this, or are there other strategies for handling utilities in this situation? Any advice appreciated!

Quote from @Tom T.:

@Jorge Caceres

1. Conversation.

- Do you have a plan to cover the rent?

- If I allowed you to break the lease and move, is that something you would consider. IE move in with family member etc. If so, maybe I reimburse your security deposit if you leave it move ready..

- Could you prepay half of next months rent now?

- Perhaps make an amendment going to weekly or semi monthly payments until things smooth out?

2. Write up whatever plan is hashed out with dates and expectations. Have them sign and date. Last line should be something along the lines of. If this plan is not followed eviction process will begin immediately, without any concessions.

3. Keep them on a short lease knowing it is extremely difficult to catch up once someone falls behind.

I've had good tenants go both ways. Move out quickly and quietly. I was happy to give them their deposit if they left the place in good shape. I could always rent within a month in my area. Usually within 10 days.

Also had them prepay and go weekly for a month or two..

Sadly, I've also had those that we had to go full court press on.

Communication is the key.

If they go silent. Be ready to serve up the required notices.


 Thanks Tom. As advised by many, I followed up with him today and got an idea of what his plans are. I will now stay on top of it. Cheers!

Quote from @Celia Lumbroso:

Hi @Jorge Caceres, I would have a friendly discussion with him in September after he submits his monthly rent.  This way the tenant feels more comfortable explaining his current financial hardship and will likely provide more information vs you demanding an answer now. 

If the tenant has hardship, try and work a payment plan with him short term 1-2 months and go from there.  The tenant seems like a respectful tenant, wouldn't want to replace him with a destructive tenant.  

Like others have stated, find out his game-plan and go from there. If the tenant knows he will have an issue paying rent even with 1-2 months of help then move on to the next tenant. 


 Thank you Spencer. I followed up with him, as advised by others, and he gave me an indication of what his plans are. I will now check with him periodically to see how the plan is executing. Appreciate your reply!

Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Jorge Caceres:

Hi everyone, I have a pretty good tenant who has been paying rent without any problems for 8 months. He just informed me that he got laid-off as something that I should be aware of. He is a very responsible person and I am sure he is actively looking for a new job, but I doubt he can pay the rent if he doesn't have a job. My question is, is there something I should start doing pro-actively? Should I be asking him if he found a new job or just wait? 

The earth turns, time marches on, rent is still due.
That's the way God made it.
Once you can control time, you can determine when rent is due. Meanwhile, that is figured out for you every month.

Now, what he does with his new found spare time will tell you what kind of man he is.  Delivering pizzas is enough to pay for rent.

I once bought a 5 bedroom house that was in pre-foreclosure.  I bought it for $112,000, they moved out and I "sold" it on a lease option getting $12,000 immediately for an option fee and cash flowed $975 a month.  A few years later I sold it for $380,000.

There were eight adult relatives and 1 small child living in the house and the mortgage was $997 a month.  Between the 8 of them, they couldn't (wouldn't) figure out how to pay $997 a month mortgage. They could have been the ones selling for $380,000 if they simply looked for work and paid the monthly mortgage. Life is hard. People can be lazy. Sometimes people (even if they are nice and likable) simply need to look for a job. 


 Hi Mike, thank you for your reply and advice. That is quite a story, glad it worked out for you.

Quote from @Richard F.:
Aloha,

If the Tenant is in financial difficulty after only 8 months, and you "doubt" he can pay the rent, it seems like you may need to tighten up your screening process. In the meantime, provide the Tenant with contact info for filing Unemployment, and possibly any covid rental assistance programs that are still available in some areas.

Since the Holidays are not that far away, depending on your market, you may be better off to let him go early without penalty, just paying for days of occupancy and leaving the place clean.

You did not indicate your location, but in most areas, ANYTHING is cheaper and faster than eviction, BUT, you should still initiate the process at the earliest lawful date.

 Hi Richard, thank you for the reply. The property is in California (Lake County). Everything checked out when he moved in. Employed solidly for 10 years with the same company but nowadays, that is not a warranty for continuous employment. 

Quote from @Gregory Schwartz:

Its important to reach out to him and ask him his game plan. Keep him accountable to his game plan. I wave late fees (only once) for my tenants that are proactive in letting me know there will be difficulties paying rent. But, I hold them to their game plan and make it clear that I can wave the rent and that the following rent will be due on time. Beyond that the future is in his hands, if he doesnt pay he cant stay.


 Thank you Gregory, good advice.