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All Forum Posts by: Jordan Whitworth

Jordan Whitworth has started 12 posts and replied 43 times.

Post: Best way to finance 6 units (3 duplexes)

Jordan WhitworthPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 24
Originally posted by @Anthony Dooley:
Originally posted by @Jordan Whitworth:
Originally posted by @Anthony Dooley:

It's not a portfolio loan, it's a commercial loan. Buy the whole thing with one loan and one closing. You will need 25% down and the rents will need to produce 125% of the debt service. Most likely it will be a 5/1 ARM with a 20 year amortization. The lender will prefer that a professional property management company handle the management rather than you. Keep it simple.

Thanks Anthony. How does that work if you want to sell off one of the properties in the future, if they are tied under one loan? Only reason we would look to go traditional on any of them is because the low interest rates. We do have an LLC set up and could put them into the LLC with no issues. Agree completely on the PM, I already have that set up in the area.

If you choose to sell one of them, the lender will tell you how much they need from the proceeds. You could apply it all to the entire loan, but the lender will not require all of it.

 Awesome, thanks for the info. I'm going to reach out to a few commercial lenders today. 

Post: Best way to finance 6 units (3 duplexes)

Jordan WhitworthPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 24
Originally posted by @Alex Bekeza:

@Jordan Whitworth There are also some great commercial blanket options available that go as high as 75% or 80% LTV depending on the variables. You could bundle all three into a 30 year fixed in the 4%/5% range, vest title in a LLC, and not have the loan report to the credit bureaus. No DTI requirements at all. Totally based on DSCR.

Thanks as well Alex, I do have one commercial lender in the area I spoke with in the past on a different package. I'll reach out to him to see what he is offering. 

Post: Best way to finance 6 units (3 duplexes)

Jordan WhitworthPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 24
Originally posted by @Anthony Dooley:

It's not a portfolio loan, it's a commercial loan. Buy the whole thing with one loan and one closing. You will need 25% down and the rents will need to produce 125% of the debt service. Most likely it will be a 5/1 ARM with a 20 year amortization. The lender will prefer that a professional property management company handle the management rather than you. Keep it simple.

Thanks Anthony. How does that work if you want to sell off one of the properties in the future, if they are tied under one loan? Only reason we would look to go traditional on any of them is because the low interest rates. We do have an LLC set up and could put them into the LLC with no issues. Agree completely on the PM, I already have that set up in the area.

Post: Best way to finance 6 units (3 duplexes)

Jordan WhitworthPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 24

Fellow BPer's, 

I've done 3 or 4 deals already with traditional financing but I have an opportunity to potentially buy 6 units (3 duplexes) with a partner. We can still afford/qualify 4 of the units under traditional financing if we choose but the last duplex would need a portfolio lender due to qualifying issues with DTI. We have enough cash to comfortably buy 4 units but the last two would squeeze us pretty tight. The deal will cash flow really well and could still continue to appreciate over the next few years.

Anyone had experience on putting a deal like this together? Buy all under 1 portfolio loan? buy some traditional some portfolio? Maybe get a LOC to fund some of the purchase of the last duplex to keep some of our cash reserves and pay off the LOC over the next year or so?

Just looking for best practices on something like this. 

Thanks! 

Post: Our First House Hack

Jordan WhitworthPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 24

Nice job, looks great! 

Post: Landlord lost $60,000 in rent, Tenant walks away

Jordan WhitworthPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 24

How do you not do a background check though? 

Post: Refinance from personal name to LLC and get a business LOC

Jordan WhitworthPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 24

I had the same issue trying to get HELOC's on the rental in my name. I just had moved them into LLC's yet because i didn't want my loan to get called and have to get a commercial loan on them. My rates are so low on my properties right now. Let me know what you find out.

Thanks! 

Post: Refinance from personal name to LLC and get a business LOC

Jordan WhitworthPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 24

Hi Jim,

I don't have the exact answer for you but I'm going through the same thing right now. Do you have umrella policies on your rentals now? Is the main reason you want to move them into LLC for BLOC or protection?

Post: Using $70,000 to buy one investment property or two?

Jordan WhitworthPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 24
Originally posted by @Curtis Davis:

@Jordan Whitworth, @Sean McDonnell, and @Bonnie Low,

Thank you all for your advice! I should have stated in my original post my investing goals; I'd like to create passive income to hopefully achieve financial freedom. I am open to the idea of buying multiple SFR's however I'm wary to do so because of having to pay multiple closing costs. I obtained a pre-approval through better mortgage and the rate seemed high closing costs were quite a bit for a 60k house. Are there better options out there for mortgage lenders?

Again, thanks for your time and guidance everyone!

~Curtis

Curtis,

If you are looking for strictly cash flow I would look at MF to try and max out your cash flow and keep your closing cost low from purchasing multiple units under one loan. What markets have you identified as potential fits? I would reach out to local lenders in the area. They usually can keep competitive and keep closing cost low. I bought a duplex in Chattanooga last year for $174,000k with 25% down and closing cost were around 5k. I used regions and my rate was 2.75%. Monthly rents are $1875 gross and my cash flow is around $800 per month after expenses,cap ex, PM, and mortgage payment. Hope this helps! 

Post: Using $70,000 to buy one investment property or two?

Jordan WhitworthPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 24

Hi Curtis, @Curtis Davis

Awesome you taking the plunge into real estate to get your investing career started and you have a great starting point with $70,000 in cash for a down payment. How you spend that money depends on the goals you want to accomplish. What kind of returns are you looking for from a cash flow perspective, ROI, etc... Do you have a particular type of property you are looking to buy? There are many different way to invest that $70,000 into real estate.