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All Forum Posts by: Jordan Dooley

Jordan Dooley has started 7 posts and replied 15 times.

Wow, thank you so much Matthew. Very informative and I appreciate that. I’ll see where we stand with our insurance and make a move accordingly. If it’s only $2k we may just pay out of pocket 

Originally posted by @Matthew Olszak:
Originally posted by @Jordan Dooley:
Can you elaborate a little please?

Originally posted by @Matthew Olszak:
Originally posted by @Michael Norris:

@Jordan Dooley couple things:

First - make sure you have the proper type of policy for the risk such as a vacant, builders risk or course of construction policy.

If you have a “landlord “ policy chances are they will deny any claim bc the property should have been on a different policy contract.

Second - read the exclusions on your policy.

Many policies for vacant property exclude theft with the exception that some (builders risk and COC) may cover theft of "building materials" - since the AC was already installed it would be a stretch to call it building materials.

Last - I bet you have ACV coverage for this type of loss which means they will depreciate for the age of the AC before paying out on a claim.

If the cost of the unit is $3000 and it’s 5 to 7+ years old it would be adjusted heavily for age - maybe 50%?

$3000 repair - 50% depreciation = $1500 payout.

$1500 pay out minus your deductible = probably not worth claiming it.

Also - someone mentioned above...your place has a target on it and thieves will be back so you need to extra secure the property and make friends with the neighbors so they hopefully watch out for you.

Good luck!

Yup I was just about to post about ACV vs RC - that nice low ACV premium gets isn't so cheap when you actually have to use the policy and file a claim. Same thing w/ these 1% of building value deductibles w/o riders that lower the deductible for specific losses (like wind/hail).

First you need to look for your vacancy clause. IE your policy may state that the property cannot be vacant for more than 30 days or coverage won't apply. Or on the flip side, a builder's policy might only apply if the building is vacant and under construction. Assuming that coverage will apply, check to see if there are any special provisions or riders that deal with theft and read through those exclusions (there should be). Sometimes there will be a separate deductible for those items or different terms/coverage. It should also define what is covered under the theft coverage.

If this is a covered loss with no separate terms, you'll then need to check to if your policy is Actual Cash Value or Replacement Cost. ACV takes the replacement cost and subtracts depreciation. IE If your AC has a usable life of say 10 years, and they determine it was 5 years old, you'll only get 5/10ths (50%) of the value of their determined cost of replacement. If you chose not to replace it and just keep the cash after you get paid, your insurance won't cover any future claims related to that. With replacement cost coverage, they'll give you a check for the ACV, then once you replace it, give you a check for the depreciated value as well. As such, policies that pay ACV are cheaper because the insurance company expects to pay much less for their risk as they only have to pay the depreciated value of the loss.

Can you elaborate a little please?

Originally posted by @Matthew Olszak:
Originally posted by @Michael Norris:

@Jordan Dooley couple things:

First - make sure you have the proper type of policy for the risk such as a vacant, builders risk or course of construction policy.

If you have a “landlord “ policy chances are they will deny any claim bc the property should have been on a different policy contract.

Second - read the exclusions on your policy.

Many policies for vacant property exclude theft with the exception that some (builders risk and COC) may cover theft of "building materials" - since the AC was already installed it would be a stretch to call it building materials.

Last - I bet you have ACV coverage for this type of loss which means they will depreciate for the age of the AC before paying out on a claim.

If the cost of the unit is $3000 and it’s 5 to 7+ years old it would be adjusted heavily for age - maybe 50%?

$3000 repair - 50% depreciation = $1500 payout.

$1500 pay out minus your deductible = probably not worth claiming it.

Also - someone mentioned above...your place has a target on it and thieves will be back so you need to extra secure the property and make friends with the neighbors so they hopefully watch out for you.

Good luck!

Yup I was just about to post about ACV vs RC - that nice low ACV premium gets isn't so cheap when you actually have to use the policy and file a claim. Same thing w/ these 1% of building value deductibles w/o riders that lower the deductible for specific losses (like wind/hail).

Seems so

Originally posted by @Michael Noto:

Am I the only one who has never heard of a central AC unit getting stolen out of someones yard? 

Yes this is crazy haha! Congrats on the closing! 

Originally posted by @Luis Vaca:

@Jordan Dooley wow same thing happened to mine after closing as well! Closed on a SFH in Kansas City and a week later bam. PM emails me saying it got stolen, they noticed it gone during a walk through with prospective renters 😂.

I did not file a claim since the price will be under 1k for replacement . Interesting how this is a thing with people stealing these.

Yea my partner was saying it’d be around $1600 so maybe I’m thinking of the wrong part of it wasn’t the whole AC! Thanks 

Originally posted by @Jacob Sampson:

I agree with @John Teachout also depending on the size of the house you can do a smaller AC unit.  I usually spend 1.5k to 1.9k for the compressor (which is what I assume was actually stolen).  I assume the A coil was probably not stolen as it is attached to the furnace.  

It happened after closing. And it was older, the house was built in 1950 but idk when the newest one was out in. I’ll ask my partner. Thanks for your help! I’ll reply with what we decide. If it’s over $3k we might file a claim 

Originally posted by @John Teachout:

Did the theft occur before or after closing?

If the unit was old, I'd probably just pay for the replacement myself. If it was newer, file a claim, that's the point of insurance. If it was a later system and just needs an outside unit, that may be less expensive but if it's an r22 older unit, they'll probably want to change out the whole system and that typically runs 4 to 5 thousand.

Haven't heard about too many ac units being stolen in recent years since they made it harder to market them at the scrap yards.

So I closed on my first rehab 3 days ago. YAY! But now someone has stolen my AC unit haha. We have insurance and our deductible is $1k. I heard Acs can cost $3k-$5k? is that accurate? I'm in Atlanta, GA.

Also, my partner is saying maybe we shouldn't make a claim because too many claims will make it harder to get a payout? That's what it sounded like. But also an insurance agent told me the insurances are temporary and don't carry on to new projects. Can someone shed some light for me? Yes, this sucks but we have a $10k fluff margin in our budget so we expected things. I'm just excited to be able to learn from this experience.

Post: Realtor and Investor from Atlanta looking to network.

Jordan DooleyPosted
  • Realtor
  • Snellville, GA
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 7

Hello everyone! It's been a minute since I've posted on here. Simply, since last time I was on this site I've made a good deal online from multiple online businesses and building a personal brand. I am looking to build my sphere of superstars to work with and partner with. I'm closing on my first flix flip in 3 days in Oakland city and I've been an equity partner in two other deals. 

I'm looking to connect with people who are ACTIVELY looking to invest in flips or even carry out the BRRR method. I would love to connect with you all and even help explain to you the cool things I'm doing with mixing real estate investing with online businesses.

Post: How do you determine what a good deal is?

Jordan DooleyPosted
  • Realtor
  • Snellville, GA
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 7

Hey all! 

So I'm fairly new to REI and have just got on to some wholesaler's buyer's lists. When they send me deals, they all look fairly good! they usually cost about 30-40k, repairs 10-15k, then arv is 100k+! Yet these deals don't get sucked right up. I know area is a factor. Can someone tell me their thought process of how they tell if they wanna get a property under contract or not. I live in Atlanta