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All Forum Posts by: Jordan Budke

Jordan Budke has started 11 posts and replied 34 times.

Quote from @Twana Rasoul:

@Jordan Budke You are better off in San Diego and your capital invested would be less in san diego than some other random market and your overall returns will likely be higher in the long term here...Very cheap markets are cheap for a reason.  

If you step up to another condo since you already have one, assuming in the 400k-500k range condo your down payment would be 3-5% which is in the 12k-20k range.  You can purchase another condo and rent out your current condo and continue to move up and rinse and repeat when you can.  

I started off in San Diego with low money down and the first property my wife and I purchased was under 400k as that was what we could afford in 2014 and by 2017 we were purchasing our 3rd property and it was still under 400k, not in particularly great areas...so first 3 properties were are single family homes or Condos (in East County)...then we house hacked a duplex in 2019 and fully renovated those units, and we are currently submitting plans to put 2 ADUs in the back. In 2020 we did a cash out refinance on the first 2 properties we purchased and pulled out over $250k between those units ....we used the $250k to purchase a triplex in La Mesa Village in the first half of 2021 (we are currently adding an ADU to make it 4 units). At the end of 2021 we sold the condo we purchased in 2017 (put less than $40k down initially) to do a tax deferred 1031 exchange and purchased a ugly/tiny 4plex in Golden Hill but I was selling 1 unit to buy 4 in a better area so I was happy.....in 2022 we purchased a 4plex with low money down, also in east county using a small bank that did this type of loan at the time....

So between 2021 to 2022 we purchased most of our units (11 units) with little money out of pocket since 2 of them were from cash out refi funds and 1 was from a 1031 exchange.  If we didn't purchase those initial properties we would have never been able to do the above and the properties that we purchased were retail and not in great areas but it was better that we purchased than not doing anything and letting time pass by.  They were all "base hit" deals at best but it worked for us, and of course if we purchased value add and in slightly better areas we could have done even better but we did not have the funds initially to take on properties that needed work.

I had a few mid west properties for a bit and sold those off...from that experience I can say for me, I would rather have 16 units in San Diego than 200 units in the mid west.


 That's good info, thanks! Condos seem to be the best option for our budget. Are condos any different and/or frowned upon for investing? 

Quote from @Bradley Buxton:

@Jordan Budke

Reno is a great area to invest (and live).  We help investors with resources to build a team.  As @Nicholas L. wrote above you will have more challenges the farther away you go.  We have multiple clients living in CA that have given up the midwest investing because of the headaches of long distance. We have knowledge and teams in the Reno Tahoe area that are specialized in working with Investors and it's a quick flight from San Diego. The number one priority is getting your finances in order before taking on more debt. 

Thanks brother! NV is just a hop and a skip away. What are the average costs of home out there and how much is a buyer expected to put down? I’m pretty green on the finance side of the biz. I bought my primary here in SD but I know buying investment properties is entirely different 

@Nicholas L.


I’m interested in CA, but how so? What are your preferred methods in a market such as this? 20% down payments would require a lot of capital. Having local investments would be way more convenient. I like the sound of that. I’m down to learn how to do it in a place like this 

Hi guys, 

I'm a condo owner and resident of San Diego County. I'm currently working on paying off my debts and improving my credit scores, but have the long-term goal of using the equity in my condo to begin my investing journey. 

Are there any areas in CA that are good for investing? If so, where would you recommend to a rookie investor?

Prices in CA, specifically in my SD area, are prohibitive. We live in a 1bd 1bth with little ability to upgrade without spending $500k+. 

Investing in-state would be convenient if possible. I've considered the possibility of buying a small mountain cabin (1.5-2 hours away) to rent as an AirBnB but question if that is wise to start out with.

Otherwise, I'd love direction on places to invest other than CA. I've looked mostly in the midwest and southern states, such as IN, OH, IL, KS, MO, TN, AR, TX, MS, AL, GA, SC. So many areas. It's tough to know where to focus on and how to build a team. 

Post: PiN Software w/ Connected Investors

Jordan BudkePosted
  • Homeowner
  • Fallbrook, CA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 22

Hey fam, 

I saw an ad for PiN software with connected software and wanted to reach out to you all for input. The concept is rad and seems like an incredible tool. Have any of you used it or are you using it now? What are your thoughts? 

I'd like to find software that can assist me in finding deals such as this software says it does. If PiN is not recommended then do any of you have recommendations for good software? 

Post: Looking for pro advice/mentoring on next steps

Jordan BudkePosted
  • Homeowner
  • Fallbrook, CA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Mark Frattini:

My thoughts...Keep the condo for now and work on increasing your income and time at current job. Continue to save as much as you can. In the meantime reach out to your lender and discuss your situation. They should be able to provide guidance on your next steps to get ready for the next purchase. Your condo will continue to build equity. Fast forward and you can either keep the condo and move into a better primary or sell the condo and find a home that has rental potential (ADU, duplex etc). Either way you still have 1 door used for rental income.


 I don't want to lose the equity. Will the market be able to sustain such high values?

Post: Looking for pro advice/mentoring on next steps

Jordan BudkePosted
  • Homeowner
  • Fallbrook, CA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Kenneth Donaghy:
Quote from @Jordan Budke:
Quote from @Kenneth Donaghy:

@Jordan Budke One suggestion I would make is don't get too attached to keeping the condo. A lot of new investors understand the term ROI, return on investment, but overlook the term ROE, return on equity. I have many clients I helped purchased a home in 2020, like yourself who have around 200K equity, and ready for the next opportunity. They think if they rent out the property they can break even or +/- $200. But when they realize they can get a better return on that 200K it lights a switch to think bigger.

Also keep in mind if/when you do sale you will not have to pay taxes up to $500K if you lived in the property 2 out of the last 5 years. I highly recommend considering this opportunity when thinking about future investments.  
 


 The concern I have about that idea is that even with the $200k in equity I cant afford anything in my market. I'm priced out right now. Unless I possibly use all of the $200k but then that would sort of negate the point, right? 


 What if an opportunity came where you needed 200K for a downpayment for househack property? 


 I'd consider it for the right opportunity

Post: Looking for pro advice/mentoring on next steps

Jordan BudkePosted
  • Homeowner
  • Fallbrook, CA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Travis Timmons:

If you have never heard of the term Delaware Statutory Trust, you probably should not invest in a Delaware Statutory trust. 

Here's the hard truth - you probably only have two options - move or make more money. The idea of taking on a partner is far easier said than done. And who's going to give someone with no experience a pile of money?

1. Make more money. If you make $50k per year, your budget for housing should and will be far lower than the average cost of a home in San Diego County. Even if you sell your condo, you're going to take that cash, level up to a proper single family home, and be house poor with no prospects of purchasing rental property with your current income. 

2. Move. You live in an expensive market. Take that $180k in equity, move to a cheaper market and invest. I have a friend who is from an expensive coastal market that now lives in Saint Louis. She owns a primary home and two investment properties. She is about to buy a 3rd investment property. Saint Louis is not as interesting. That's a fact. To her, the trade off was worth it. To many, it is not.  San Diego County just isn't a good place to establish economic security and build a real estate portfolio as a young family. That sucks. It's also true. It's a great place to live, but there is likely no magic bullet here that lets you have it both ways.

Amen to all that. That's been my exact train of thought. My alternative idea to moving is investing out of state. 

Post: Looking for pro advice/mentoring on next steps

Jordan BudkePosted
  • Homeowner
  • Fallbrook, CA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Kenneth Donaghy:

@Jordan Budke One suggestion I would make is don't get too attached to keeping the condo. A lot of new investors understand the term ROI, return on investment, but overlook the term ROE, return on equity. I have many clients I helped purchased a home in 2020, like yourself who have around 200K equity, and ready for the next opportunity. They think if they rent out the property they can break even or +/- $200. But when they realize they can get a better return on that 200K it lights a switch to think bigger.

Also keep in mind if/when you do sale you will not have to pay taxes up to $500K if you lived in the property 2 out of the last 5 years. I highly recommend considering this opportunity when thinking about future investments.  
 


 The concern I have about that idea is that even with the $200k in equity I cant afford anything in my market. I'm priced out right now. Unless I possibly use all of the $200k but then that would sort of negate the point, right? 

Post: Looking for pro advice/mentoring on next steps

Jordan BudkePosted
  • Homeowner
  • Fallbrook, CA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Bud Gaffney:

@Jordan Budke congrats! Get your income up and get a HELOC. Maybe house hack a multi family ?


 Thanks man! I would love to house hack! Unfortunately, there are not many multi family units in my area unless you are able to purchase a large one. I would also love to increase my income. I have researched some side hustles but not really fit with my abilities and work schedule. What ways would you suggest I use to increase my income?