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All Forum Posts by: Jonathan R.

Jonathan R. has started 13 posts and replied 568 times.

Post: Asset Allocation Discussion (Real Estate/Cash/Stocks & Bonds)

Jonathan R.Posted
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Real estate for cash flow. Precious metals to protect wealth. 401k only with a company match to buy more real estate cashflow and more precious metals. Kiyosaki, “I play monopoly everyday. Except I use fake money (fiat money) to buy real money, which is gold and silver. Gold and silver are real money. And what I mean by real money is they will be here when all the cockroaches are dead.”

Post: How are they sourcing these deals?

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Bandit signs are everywhere here. I‘m seeing Facebook ads from local wholesalers/investors that have a front picture of a run down house that when you click on it it asks you to put in your address for a bid. Direct mail marketing is certainly taking place too. I‘m getting phone calls when I put a rental listing up where the person asks if I have one I want to sell, when I say no, they want to know if I‘m looking to buy.

@Mark Sam why do you want loans as a new investor? You’re sitting on 700k. I can hit financial freedom in real estate with 350k (so half your number). It makes no sense to me for you to put your money at risk by borrowing until you have done several cash deals. Leverage is for experienced investors. Build your foundation on solid ground, not sand. You should prove that you can do several deals first before you use leverage. Leverage is lazy, you’ll work harder for better deals with cash with zero risk of foreclosure.

Easy. I’d sell the condo and buy 14 $50,000 all in single family homes, all cash with no debt. After you‘ve stabilized at least 10 all cash deals you can consider using a little leverage into multifamily. But don‘t leverage all your single family homes to do it. 7 of the 14 max. Study the heck out of multifamily before you take the leap. Honestly, your cashflow off 14 single family homes will buy you a new 50k property every 7 months or so; it may be boring, but boring does well. Consider being an entrepreneur and starting a business too. Kiyosaki will tell you the combination of owning a business/businesses and real estate is the way to go. Do that and buy commodities. The 4 metals-gold, silver, guns, and bullets. :) Best of luck.

Post: What is going on with this market?

Jonathan R.Posted
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Originally posted by @Alan Zee:

I am not sure what to make of this real estate market in 2019. The prices are out of control for lousy multi families. These properties don’t cash flow unless you buy with 50% deposit.

With 30% down, you’re just breaking even. I’m talking C&D properties in C&D areas.

In Cincinnati where I invest, a 4plex a year ago was listed for $35k- 40k door. Now they are listed for $50k plus/door. Rents remain the same.

In NJ where I’m also looking. Prices are 20-30% higher than a year ago. The lack of supply are causing owners to ask sky high prices for fixer uppers.

This trend has continued for the last few years but the last 12-18 months it seems really out of control.

Im interested to hear the opinion of other investors here on the current market? It seems everyone is chasing “ doors” without calculating the numbers in my opinion.

 But I thought C/D properties don‘t ever appreciate? Those D properties were worth that 20 years ago and they will be worth that 20 years from now... Ha. I knew not to completely trust the peanut gallery.

Anyway, I ran into this too. The good news is the C/D market is really the wild wild west of real estate. Not every seller knows the prices have exploded this year. You may find some selling for the prices four years ago even if you get in front of them. But you got to get as close to these sellers as you can to get the prices you need. Offer your normal numbers to the tired landlord or distressed seller. Get out and talk with people (other investors-especially the ones doing a ton of deals, they may know of a realistic seller but had too much on their plate to take it down). A trusted wholesaler might be able to get it done too. Once it hits a well attended auction or the mls, it’s too late. Good luck!

Post: Should I start my real estate journey with my dad? Or solo

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I've done one with the old man but I did one on my own first. He knew I hit a golden goose and we did a similar deal for him. He's passive, I did everything. No resentment on my part because I am still atoning for my childhood. :) Best of luck!

Post: What do you budget for reserves and CapEx?

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Originally posted by @Steve K.:
Originally posted by @Jonathan R.:
Originally posted by @Steve K.:
Originally posted by @Mindy Jensen:
Originally posted by @Steve K.:

@Mindy Jensen What works for me is to burn 50 dollar bills in each corner of all new properties, within 1 hour of taking ownership. It's my version of sage smudging. Then I set aside $1million per square foot to handle unexpected Capex, maintenance and repairs. It's never enough, but I can always sell my plasma if I need to. Owning property is expensive.

Owning property IN BOULDER is expensive. 

Yes that's true, that's why I substitute 5's for 50's when I'm smudging my Longmont properties, and only allocate $500k per square foot for Capex, plus my first born for repairs.

In all seriousness though to address your post: perhaps the biggest mistake I see people making on here is using percentages or other rules of thumb instead of crunching the actual numbers specific to a property. It's especially dangerous when using a percentage of a low rent amount. If gross rent is anything less than say $1,000/mo. I'd be afraid even 100% of that is not nearly enough to meet the baseline cost to maintain a property, especially the type of inexpensive property that "cash flows" with $1,000/mo. rent. An expected $200/month cash flow can turn into a big hole that takes years to crawl out of very quickly if a couple major Capex events occur simultaneously, which thanks to Murphy's law they always do.

In my opinion the way to do it is to total up the big ticket items that may need to be addressed during the intended hold period, for example if you're planning to hold for ten years and the property is already 50 years old and in rough shape it might need 1 roof at $10k, 2 water heaters at $5k, new furnace $8k, sewer line $15k, appliances twice at $12k, driveway repaved at $9k, Kitchen and bath rehab at $20k... Let's say the total is $80k, divide that by 120 months= $666/mo. (wow, totally unintended ominous number!), plus your normal repairs, maintenance and whatever other miscellaneous **** that hits the fan of course. I've read it costs an average of $1,200/mo. to maintain a home. It's probably a lot more than most people expect which is why it's hard to make any money on inexpensive property with rent less than $1,000/mo. Literally all of that and more, most likely A LOT more, is going to get devoured by Capex over time.

I allocate $20k extra for each property when I purchase (on top of any rehab budget, and I build it into the sales price when I'm running my financial analysis, side note these are MF properties 3 units and bigger). I do this just because in my experience when I take on new properties I like to fix things. Generally I find at least some unexpected deferred maintenance type stuff that the seller didn't address, the type of thing that is better to take care of now rather than let it get worse and more expensive to deal with later. Then as far as allocating for Capex I use something like the above method, custom for each property, and have plenty of reserves held in mutual funds so I don't become an undercapitalized deadbeat landlord that can't afford to fix things or pay the mortgage when a furnace and a sewer line decide to call it quits at the same time, which just happened to me at the beginning of this year.

 No way I would invest in RE with that kind of capex.

For a refrigerator, I find the best one on Craiglist for $150, I do the same for the stove. They say never to buy a used hot water heater... but hey, it‘s a cheap rental and mine went out, so let’s check Craigslist or Letgo, sure enough $175 (how does $125 cash right now sound? Good, great)! Furnace-$700, AC unit-$550 both purchased from a wholesaler of hvac in town... now to find an installer... Hey hvac buddy, any of your friends get a dui recently and get fired or anyone need some money? I got $1000 to whoever installs these, I‘d like to do $600 if you‘re cool with that, I‘m an investor... Sewer line excavated and replaced, $1500 tops or I‘ll get out a shovel myself. Repaved driveway done professionally-3kish, by why do it? It‘s a rental, pour some quickrete in the hole and move on.

$1000 or less rents work for investors all the time, but got to quit being the guy at the end of the rainbow.

 Just picked up a beautiful bathroom vanity with white marble counter at resource for $45 (retail $800). Also hand dug a sewer line earlier this year. But I wasn’t talking about us hands-on types, more so addressing those new investors who still naively use the term “passive income”. Using even 50% for capex on let’s just say $700 rent is probably not enough over time unless you’re a true bootstrapper like you and I. Even DIYing almost everything and getting average $5k/mo. gross rent on each of my MF properties I have months where I’m negative by a lot. Expensive stuff comes up no matter who you are or how nice the property is, and I’m saying the combo of outsourcing everything and using a calculation that only allocates a few hundred per month or even less for capex is a recipe for disaster. Even if nothing breaks it will take years to build up an adequate reserve if you’re only holding a few hundred aside each month, like 15% of $1,000 or even worse... I’ve seen numbers on here where they’re allocating 5% of rent and rent is only $650, that’s not nearly enough.  

 I agree. And from my post some might think I‘m slumlordy, not the case. My properties are very nice, the kitchen and bathroom tile work looks like HGTV. I make a really nice rental by addressing almost everything. My real asset though is my contractor, the guy is like Macgyver and very affordable. He stays with me because I keep buying so he stays busy, I pay his phone bill, and have gotten him vested in my business by offering to partner with him/buy him a cheap bonus property when he‘s completed 10 gut renovations basically. I personally have no handyman skills but I sure would figure some things out if my business wasn‘t growing as rapidly as it is.

Post: What do you budget for reserves and CapEx?

Jonathan R.Posted
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Originally posted by @Steve K.:
Originally posted by @Mindy Jensen:
Originally posted by @Steve K.:

@Mindy Jensen What works for me is to burn 50 dollar bills in each corner of all new properties, within 1 hour of taking ownership. It's my version of sage smudging. Then I set aside $1million per square foot to handle unexpected Capex, maintenance and repairs. It's never enough, but I can always sell my plasma if I need to. Owning property is expensive.

Owning property IN BOULDER is expensive. 

Yes that's true, that's why I substitute 5's for 50's when I'm smudging my Longmont properties, and only allocate $500k per square foot for Capex, plus my first born for repairs.

In all seriousness though to address your post: perhaps the biggest mistake I see people making on here is using percentages or other rules of thumb instead of crunching the actual numbers specific to a property. It's especially dangerous when using a percentage of a low rent amount. If gross rent is anything less than say $1,000/mo. I'd be afraid even 100% of that is not nearly enough to meet the baseline cost to maintain a property, especially the type of inexpensive property that "cash flows" with $1,000/mo. rent. An expected $200/month cash flow can turn into a big hole that takes years to crawl out of very quickly if a couple major Capex events occur simultaneously, which thanks to Murphy's law they always do.

In my opinion the way to do it is to total up the big ticket items that may need to be addressed during the intended hold period, for example if you're planning to hold for ten years and the property is already 50 years old and in rough shape it might need 1 roof at $10k, 2 water heaters at $5k, new furnace $8k, sewer line $15k, appliances twice at $12k, driveway repaved at $9k, Kitchen and bath rehab at $20k... Let's say the total is $80k, divide that by 120 months= $666/mo. (wow, totally unintended ominous number!), plus your normal repairs, maintenance and whatever other miscellaneous **** that hits the fan of course. I've read it costs an average of $1,200/mo. to maintain a home. It's probably a lot more than most people expect which is why it's hard to make any money on inexpensive property with rent less than $1,000/mo. Literally all of that and more, most likely A LOT more, is going to get devoured by Capex over time.

I allocate $20k extra for each property when I purchase (on top of any rehab budget, and I build it into the sales price when I'm running my financial analysis, side note these are MF properties 3 units and bigger). I do this just because in my experience when I take on new properties I like to fix things. Generally I find at least some unexpected deferred maintenance type stuff that the seller didn't address, the type of thing that is better to take care of now rather than let it get worse and more expensive to deal with later. Then as far as allocating for Capex I use something like the above method, custom for each property, and have plenty of reserves held in mutual funds so I don't become an undercapitalized deadbeat landlord that can't afford to fix things or pay the mortgage when a furnace and a sewer line decide to call it quits at the same time, which just happened to me at the beginning of this year.

 No way I would invest in RE with that kind of capex.

For a refrigerator, I find the best one on Craiglist for $150, I do the same for the stove. They say never to buy a used hot water heater... but hey, it‘s a cheap rental and mine went out, so let’s check Craigslist or Letgo, sure enough $175 (how does $125 cash right now sound? Good, great)! Furnace-$700, AC unit-$550 both purchased from a wholesaler of hvac in town... now to find an installer... Hey hvac buddy, any of your friends get a dui recently and get fired or anyone need some money? I got $1000 to whoever installs these, I‘d like to do $600 if you‘re cool with that, I‘m an investor... Sewer line excavated and replaced, $1500 tops or I‘ll get out a shovel myself. Repaved driveway done professionally-3kish, by why do it? It‘s a rental, pour some quickrete in the hole and move on.

$1000 or less rents work for investors all the time, but got to quit being the guy at the end of the rainbow.

Post: Investing Into Florida Urban Areas?

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@Cameron Riley Easter is Shri Lanka was meant to instill fear. Fear could keep you inside your house. Fear could keep you from experiencing the thrill of life, from pursuing your passions. Fear can keep you in a cubicle until you are 65 plus years of age. 

For me, real estate is a lot like the movie Braveheart. When I started my back was up against a wall. Do this or roll over, those were my choices. Fear does not keep me from buying right smack in the middle of the urban core if I think the numbers make sense. Fear does not keep me from buying a can of spray paint and running up and down a neighborhood toward the end of a rehab covering up gang graffiti. 

I choose to thrive instead from the adrenaline that runs through my veins. A quest to create generational wealth for my family. A good vs evil mentality. A passion for the less fortunate and desire to correct injustice. And freeeeeeeeeedooooooooooooommm!!!!

Post: What do you budget for reserves and CapEx?

Jonathan R.Posted
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Originally posted by @Syed H.:
Originally posted by @Jonathan R.:

0. I figured out how to buy the properties, I‘ll figure out how to maintain the properties. I do try to do a full rehab initially. As I keep buying more properties, the cash flow monthly grows too, that helps. 

 How many properties/units do you have? How many cycles have you been through? 

 5. Low price point homes. If one burns down I‘ll buy another one.