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All Forum Posts by: Jonathan R.

Jonathan R. has started 13 posts and replied 568 times.

Post: 30k plus profit in D area flip? Possible?

Jonathan R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 584
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Originally posted by @Shane H.:

@Jonathan R. name bomb worked for my keyword alerts...ha -- Wish you the best in the sale - and depending on where from WSU as I'm sure you know depends on how much valuations have went up.  I think one of the FARHA's bought most of the stuff within a block of 2 of 17th st once he knew of the future expansion plans a few years ago -

I graduated there in 03 and never thought the neighborhood around there or the development nearby would take place - 

We've been away for 2 years almost exactly now and sure do miss it.  The plus about living in Topeka is we are an hour 20 mins from downtown KC and 20 from our house to Lawrence.  Cant say anything in Topeka excites me -- I wish it did - we are still looking -- but great people here - just not the same energy Wichita got going for it the past 5 -10 years or so.

If you're ever up in Topeka we should connect (Or Lawrence) -- When my wife is done w nursing school - hopefully this December I'll hopefully be able to spend more time back in Wichita.  We are all tied here for now.

Thank you for the reply. I’d love to chat. You are doing some impressive stuff yourself with the underserved elderly facility you run. I appreciate the shoutout. 

I’m glad to see the city come together as it has, and I may have gotten a bit lucky on this one. My wife deserves much of the credit.  

Post: 30k plus profit in D area flip? Possible?

Jonathan R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 584
  • Votes 812
Originally posted by @James Galla:

It's totally possible. I've seen a couple low-value flips in lower-tier areas. Say a couple hundred dollars to a few thousand for the house then rehab and sell it for a small to modest profit. Those flips push the slow and natural appreciation upward, but it's certainly not significant.

 I think the reason this valuation is significantly higher than what I have in is because my 10k renovation would cost most 27k and Wichita State University is expanding rapidly. There are very few available homes in this area. So we’ll see. I just name bombed my city for local insight.

Post: 30k plus profit in D area flip? Possible?

Jonathan R.Posted
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  • Wichita, KS
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@Dennis M. I’m trying to be like Glenn from Undercover Billionionaire. While watching this show, at the show’s inspiration, I’ll have flipped a kids balance bike, a riding lawn mower, a car, and hopefully this house. I looked at my contractor this past week when he was not on par and I told him I need him playing in the major leagues (a Glenn Bryant quote). :) I’m trying to push it now... That show was amazing.

I’d also like to start a business, but I need to find my customer first (thanks Glenn). 

Post: 30k plus profit in D area flip? Possible?

Jonathan R.Posted
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  • Wichita, KS
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Originally posted by @Dennis M.:

I’ll laugh when you get multiple offers over your 66k asking price . I could be wrong but When I hear people say that if you buy at 20 it will always be worth 20 I can’t help but wonder about that idea when the cost of lumber and supplies keeps going up crazy at my Home Depot and the good areas with high rents keep getting pushed up and taxed up making it unaffordable to most , then I consider our population .we double in size in this country every few decades .seems  They keep making people but not anymore land . They aren’t building any new houses these days in the area either so where do folks live ???? In a tree ?under a bridge?  in a bush ??
what a crazy idea .is appreciation still possible even in the hood ??... Inquiring minds want to know !

It is safe to say you hit the nail on the head with this post, Dennis. If I pull this off, I’ll be off to the races. 

Post: 30k plus profit in D area flip? Possible?

Jonathan R.Posted
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  • Wichita, KS
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@Melody Kushi I’ll never touch my seed money. My goal is two 30k or so post rehab houses with double my current $795 a month cashflow. Thanks for your comment!

Post: 30k plus profit in D area flip? Possible?

Jonathan R.Posted
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  • Wichita, KS
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@Caleb Heimsoth I’d take 60k! :)

You can see the University’s stadium lights from the corner of the block. I saw a diamond in the rough when we bought it.

Post: 30k plus profit in D area flip? Possible?

Jonathan R.Posted
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  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 584
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@Dennis M. I’m not hearing from those that think I’m crazy yet. I’m buying two more houses that have little chance of investor success if this one brings in near asking...

Post: 30k plus profit in D area flip? Possible?

Jonathan R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 584
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Well, here we go folks, I’m ready to lay this to bed once and for all. For years I’ve read from B and A class investors, others trying to scare me off of buying and renovating D class properties. They’d write, “It will never appreciate.” And... “It is worth 20 grand today and it will always be worth 20 grand.” Yada Yada. Today we put this all to the test...

My year long section 8 tenant is moving out this weekend, her lease is up at the end of the month. I called my realtor and said I would list the house with him while we look for another section 8 tenant paying $795 a month if he could get me a crazy number like 50k. I bought the house roughly two years ago for 19k and did a 10k renovation. It is near a major University on the edge of a rough area. After looking at comps, understanding our renovation, my realtor said he is comfortable at 66k, but can push it to 69k. 

It feels great to hear those numbers, I’ll report back if I am in fact the genius I always hoped I was. To my never buy in rough area naysayers, I have nothing to report yet, but I’m putting you on notice that pigs are going to fly on this one. 

Post: Can a Section 8 Tenant Midnight Break Lease Early?

Jonathan R.Posted
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  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 584
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Originally posted by @Patti Robertson:
Originally posted by @Jonathan R.:
Originally posted by @Patti Robertson:

Nope.  You should send the tenant notice immediately and cc the case worker saying that in response to their phone call you are notifying them that they are in a lease until ?/?/? and do not have permission to terminated it. I had a situation one time where a SEC 8 tenant abandoned and when we found out we contacted the case worker who said “She didn’t tell you she was leaving?  She told me you said it was OK.”   In our situation the case worker had already reissued the voucher and the tenant moved.  You need to notify SEC 8 before this happens.  If a tenant abandoned their lease they are supposed to lose their voucher.

Thank you! If they go non Section 8 is Section 8 still responsible for their portion till the lease is up?
 

Just to clarify - you are asking if they lose their voucher will SEC 8 pay the rent til the end of the lease? With a SEC 8 tenant there are three separate contracts 1) the lease with you and the tenant 2) the contract between the tenant and HUD and 3) a HAP agreement between you and HUD. If HUD terminates their contract with the tenant, their contract with you automatically terminates as well, which means they will no longer be sending you payments. That does not terminate your lease with the tenant however, and unless your lease addresses this situation, your lease with the tenant is still in place. (My lease has a clause that says if the HAP agreement terminates the lease terminates at the same time.) Your tenant is then treated just like any other tenant and you will have to follow your state laws if they can't qualify without the voucher and don't agree to a mutual termination of the lease.

The tenant is staying. We offered to split treatment. In 45 minutes I’ll report back the bid from our usual guys, they are very reasonable comparatively speaking. I did talk with the owner of the bug company and he says they do have both roaches and bed bugs. Not looking good, but at least the tenant is staying.

Post: Can a Section 8 Tenant Midnight Break Lease Early?

Jonathan R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 584
  • Votes 812
Originally posted by @Patti Robertson:

Nope.  You should send the tenant notice immediately and cc the case worker saying that in response to their phone call you are notifying them that they are in a lease until ?/?/? and do not have permission to terminated it. I had a situation one time where a SEC 8 tenant abandoned and when we found out we contacted the case worker who said “She didn’t tell you she was leaving?  She told me you said it was OK.”   In our situation the case worker had already reissued the voucher and the tenant moved.  You need to notify SEC 8 before this happens.  If a tenant abandoned their lease they are supposed to lose their voucher.

Thank you! If they go non Section 8 is Section 8 still responsible for their portion till the lease is up?