@Lilach Holtzer hope your well after our chat a couple of weeks ago!
Maybe lenders do see some BRRR's but I think the amount that are happening in Jax are the rare case right now, and not probably deals you're finding on the MLS, probably direct to the seller. And if that's the case, I would be surprised if the cost to reach the sellers and the time as well is being factored into the deal costs so does that even really count?
I do think you would have to be very close to the 1% rule with your all-in cost to rent in order to refi out a bunch of money and even then you may not get it all.
$1,500 rent
40% expenses
$900 NOI per month
$10,800 NOI per year
at a 7% cap rate that's $154,285 cost per unit
$154,285 loan at 6% and a 30 amortization is $925 which is a 0.97 DSCR
For $900 a month NOI per unit, to get to a 1.25 DSCR you would need a monthly mortgage payment of $720 per unit. To get that you could only borrow $120,000 at 6% with a 30-year amortization.
So even if you could find a property or MF property where your all-in cost is $154k/unit you could only borrow $120k per unit which is a 78% loan-to-cost ratio so this isn't a BRRR.
And good luck finding multifamily in Riverside and Avondale for less than $120k a unit and if you do, your all-in cost isn't $120k per unit once you're done.
Want to do a single family house?
$2,000 rent for a 3x2 1500 SF house is pretty fair
$2,000 at a 30% expense ratio which is way too low is
$1,400 NOI per month
$16,800 NOI per year
a 7% cap rate is $240,000
$240,000 at a 6% interest rate and 30-year amortization is $1,428.92 per month or a 0.97 DSCR
To get to a 1.25 DSCR at these numbers you could only borrow $187,000 at a 6% interest rate with a 30-year amortization.
Find me a deal you can be all into for $187k that rents for $2,000 in Jacksonville and I'll find one of two things. The deal of a lifetime or a deal with incorrect numbers or problems that aren't being addressed.
If someone is actually doing a BRRR in Jacksonville I would actually love to see it because I just don't see how it can be done without spending a ton on direct marketing costs and then those costs should be added and I'd be curious if it's still an actual BRRR. I genuinely welcome someone to give me a real example with actual numbers showing how I'm wrong and I will fully admit it, but I just don't see how.