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Account Closed has started 12 posts and replied 576 times.

Post: Trump/CDC Halts evictions nationwide to the end of the year

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Originally posted by @Sherry Byrne:

@Theresa Harris this is a free pass for tenants to not pay rent and NEVER have to pay back landlord

 The solution is to employ "Proper Underwriting" now, and see if they qualify.

I have a tenant I'm booting out for other reasons (broke other terms of the rental agreement) but for certain, absolutely, they will claim they can't be evicted because of COVID-19.

I am requiring they provide EVERY paycheck stub and every bank statement from Jan 1 2020 (Pre-Covid-19) to today to verify if they have had an interruption from unemployment or reduced hours. I know for a fact, from text messages, that they have not been impacted by loss of employment or reduced hours. (How they spent that money is a completely different issue.) But, they have the same income & have enough continuing income to make normal payments.

1. If they provide the paycheck stubs and bank statements, I have proof for the judge at eviction court and in case I ever get questioned about evicting them.

2. If they don't provide the paycheck stubs and bank statements, I can evict and accuse them of lying on the affidavit thus forcing the perjury charge.

Don't just roll over, follow the rules and take charge of your properties. Ask questions and make them Prove!

Post: Found electrical issues after no contingency offer was accepted

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Originally posted by @Robert Voeltz:

Hello everyone, this is my first post here on biggerpockets.com. Unfortunately for me this is a question I should have asked prior to making this offer to purchase. 

The property is being sold via power of attorney.  They didn't include any condition report since they never lived in the house.  It's an older property but it has a New roof, modern windows, updated electrical, etc... the updates combined with the character and charm of the old house made it attractive.  It looked good during the walk through and after running the numbers, I made an offer.  Highest and best, no contingencies. It was accepted! Hooray! For now. 

Fast forward to a week later while getting estimates for renovations we found old electrical wiring connected to a newer junction box. It's knob and tube. It will need further investigation to determine the extent of the repairs needed. Most likely make this good deal a very bad deal.

So my question is, has anyone here ever made an offer without any contingencies and then been able to negotiate after finding significant problems with a property? I'm prepared to walk away loosing my earnest money if needs be.  I'd rather turn the situation into both a learning opportunity and a win if possible.  Any advice is appreciated.

After reading so many real estate investing books I know better.  The heat of the moment, finally finding a property I want to buy at a good price. I let the emotions take over. Never again. Every offer will be contingent from now on. Lesson learned. 

What are your plans for the house? (Why did you buy the house? Rental? To Live in? To Flip? Group Home? etc?)

How would a little rewiring make it a "very bad deal"?

Post: Trump/CDC Halts evictions nationwide to the end of the year

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Originally posted by @Nathan S.:

@Robert Steele

I just created a post asking this exact question. Whether or not month-to-month renewal made sense from an evection point of view.

What about annual lease with either party having the option to provide 60 day notice? How would that fare? Still considered holdovers after 60 days?

I’d be interested in getting some other peoples thoughts on this.

It's important to read what it covers and what it DOESN'T cover:

  1. The person has to prove they can’t pay the full amount because of loss of work relating to COVID-19
  2. The person has to make every attempt to pay rent on time
  3. The person has to APPLY under Oath, under penalty of perjury
  4. It is not automatically granted
  5. If the renter has some other place to move to, they can be evicted
  6. The renter STILL OWES all rents, they have to be paid at some point
  7. This does not include foreclosure on a home mortgage
  8. They can still be evicted for violating OTHER TERMS on the lease agreement

Here is the Actual Wording:

“Covered person” means any tenant, lessee, or resident of a residential property who provides to their landlord, the owner of the residential property, or other person with a legal right to pursue eviction or a possessory action,

a declaration under penalty of perjury indicating that:

1) The individual has used best efforts to obtain all available government assistance for rent or housing;

2) The individual either

(i) expects to earn no more than $99,000 in annual income for Calendar Year 2020 (or no more than $198,000 if filing a joint tax return),

(ii) was not required to report any income in 2019 to the U.S. Internal Revenue Service, or

(iii) received an Economic Impact Payment (stimulus check) pursuant to Section 2201 of the CARES Act;

3) the individual is unable to pay the full rent or make a full housing payment

due to substantial loss of household income, loss of compensable hours of work or wages, a lay-off, or extraordinary out-of-pocket medical expenses;

4) the individual is using best efforts to make timely partial payments that are as close to the full payment as the individual’s circumstances may permit, taking into account other nondiscretionary expenses; and

5) eviction would likely render the individual homeless—or force the individual to move into and live in close quarters in a new congregate or shared living setting—because the individual has no other available housing options.

“Evict” and “Eviction” means any action by a landlord, owner of a residential property, or other person with a legal right to pursue eviction or a possessory action, to remove or cause the removal of a covered person from a residential property.

This does not include foreclosure on a home mortgage.

HERE IS THE ACTUAL OREDER:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2020-19654.pdf

Post: Forbearance, Forbearance, FORBEARANCE!!!!! This is a MUST-READ

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Originally posted by @Charles Montgomery:

@Chris Mason 

Thank you Chris! You are the man! I was hoping you would comment on my post. I follow your posts all the time and I must say you give the best lending info on a consistent basis on this site. But I'm sure you and the rest here already know that!

Thanks for pointing out that lenders can be more restrictive than FHFA guidelines. I personally am not looking for new loans/refinances for the next few years but it's good to know it isn't as simple as 3 consecutive payments after forbearance ends to get a great rate on your next loan. Definitely a pitfall to watch out for!

Does anyone here actually disagree with my post and willing to back it up? @Account Closed ? Anyone? 

Lol, taking shortcuts in real estate is not a wise way to build wealth my friend. It seems you want to take shortcuts AND scam the system. It's not to my liking at all.

Money you borrow is being lent by somebody else who counts on those payments for eating. It isn't money just "pulled out of thin air". Lenders lend money that real live people have invested.

Since people depend on your payments being paid and being paid on time, which you've agreed to do, if you fail to make your payments, the investors (lots of retired people included) don't get paid and can't pay their payments, bills and buy groceries. It's called "theft" & "fraud" if someone intentionally doesn't pay their bills, rent, mortgage.

And yes, going forward, most lenders will ask if you every used a forbearance and will decide your loan accordingly. There are a thousand ways to deny your loan if they don't want to do business with you. Forbearance will be a big Red Flag.

Post: Seller second financing to tenants with low cash DP

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Originally posted by @Daniel Seaton:

Hi all, I have a condo I'm planning to sell soon in Alexandria, VA near Amazon HQ2 in a very hot, low inventory neighborhood. The problem is I have tenants in place until June 2021 and they aren't interested in being paid an early termination fee to move out before the lease ends (I offered when mentioning to them my potential plans to sell). They did however ask about what price I'd be looking to sell at, which leads me to think they might want to purchase the place. They are a young newlywed couple and I don't imagine they have much funds for a DP, but the husbands mother co-signed the lease and I imagine she might consider co-signing a mortgage so I think they could qualify on a DTI basis with her. The problem would be the DP.

My agent has advised listing at 399,990, which I think I could get from an investor, but bidding wars are common in the neighborhood with multiple above-listing offers (I could see the place getting 425 based on recent sales), although I think that’d be less likely in my case since I wouldn’t be able to market to owner-occupants. I was wondering whether I might be able to put together an offer for the tenants where I took back a small (say 10k) mortgage, interest only for 5 years with a balloon payment, and sold it to them for 410k with them putting a Very small amount down. Would they be able to get a conventional mortgage under Such a scenario? Or do they themselves really need to put 3% of sales price into the deal to get conventional financing? 

Thanks for any suggestions/advice!

The value of having a real estate agent is for the agent to find you a buyer. If the agent didn't find the buyer, you have (until you sign a listing agreement and I can't think of why you would if you found the buyer and he didn't) you have No obligation to use or pay that agent. Run the numbers. The cost of an agent at 6% for a $400,000 property is $24,000. If you believe the agent can bring you more than $24,000 in value, above what you can get from the tenants, then you use the agent. However, if you already have a buyer, use a title company and a lawyer to complete the sale. You will save about $20,000. Give the tenant buyer a bit of a break since you are saving so much money. It's a clean deal and you don't have the uncertainty of how long and how much hassle selling through the MLS might be.

Post: Trump bans evictions through the end of 2020

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Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @Arlan Potter:

I evicted 2 parties last week.  This must only apply to Fed Funded or managed properties?

Just went into effect a few hours ago. It is apparently any and all rental properties.

It's important to read what it covers and what it DOESN'T cover:

  1. The person has to prove they can’t pay the full amount because of loss of work relating to COVID-19
  2. The person has to make every attempt to pay rent on time
  3. The person has to APPLY under Oath, under penalty of perjury
  4. It is not automatically granted
  5. If the renter has some other place to move to, they can be evicted
  6. The renter STILL OWES all rents, they have to be paid at some point
  7. This does not include foreclosure on a home mortgage
  8. They can still be evicted for violating OTHER ITEMS on the lease agreement

Here is the Actual Wording:

“Covered person” means any tenant, lessee, or resident of a residential property who provides to their landlord, the owner of the residential property, or other person with a legal right to pursue eviction or a possessory action,

a declaration under penalty of perjury indicating that:

1) The individual has used best efforts to obtain all available government assistance for rent or housing;

2) The individual either

(i) expects to earn no more than $99,000 in annual income for Calendar Year 2020 (or no more than $198,000 if filing a joint tax return),

(ii) was not required to report any income in 2019 to the U.S. Internal Revenue Service, or

(iii) received an Economic Impact Payment (stimulus check) pursuant to Section 2201 of the CARES Act;

3) the individual is unable to pay the full rent or make a full housing payment

due to substantial loss of household income, loss of compensable hours of work or wages, a lay-off, or extraordinary out-of-pocket medical expenses;

4) the individual is using best efforts to make timely partial payments that are as close to the full payment as the individual’s circumstances may permit, taking into account other nondiscretionary expenses; and

5) eviction would likely render the individual homeless—or force the individual to move into and live in close quarters in a new congregate or shared living setting—because the individual has no other available housing options.

“Evict” and “Eviction” means any action by a landlord, owner of a residential property, or other person with a legal right to pursue eviction or a possessory action, to remove or cause the removal of a covered person from a residential property.

"This does not include foreclosure on a home mortgage."

HERE IS THE LINK TO THE ENTIRE ORDER:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/publi...

Post: Forbearance, Forbearance, FORBEARANCE!!!!! This is a MUST-READ

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Originally posted by @Charles Montgomery:

Hi there Bigger Pockets!

You NEED to enter into forbearance. ASAP. NOW. You will read why below.

Most users on this site use 30 year loans. Now imagine if I offered you $10,000 today or $10,000 in 30 years. Which would you choose? What if I offered you $10,000 30 YEARS AGO? 

You would choose the 30 years ago option because $10,000 was worth much more 30 years ago than it is today. $10,000 will be worth much less 30 years in the future. 

If I were you (and I have already done this on ALL my mortgages) I would enter forbearance AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. Every dollar wasted today can be wasted 30 years from now instead. Yes I used the term "wasted". Why is money going into your mortgage payment being wasted?

#1 If you are in the beginning of your loan, MOST of your payment every single month is going straight to the bank as interest.

#2 Money you don't get to see again for 30 years might as well be considered "wasted" as well.

I would much rather pause all my loans for the full year the CARES act has given us, and use it to my advantage! 

Now all the critics will tell you the following:

#1 You might have to pay a lump sum at the end of the forbearance period for all missed payments.

#2 You won't be able to get a new loan or refinance until YEARS after the forbearance period ends.

BOTH OF THESE ASSUMPTIONS ARE FALSE

#1 The Fed has been directed to NOT request lump sum payments from borrowers. You either have a higher monthly payment for the rest of your loan period OR (more likely) a year will be added to your loan term where you keep paying the same amount (this is where I tell you your money is worth much less 31 years from now). 

If you are still worried about the 1% chance that you MAY have to pay a lump sum; simple! Just put your monthly mortgage payment into a separate account for a year and if you do encounter that scenario you will be prepared.

#2 You can get a new loan AND/OR refinance only 3 MONTHS after your forbearance ends! To be more specific, it is actually after 3 consecutive on-time payments after your forbearance ends where you will become eligible to apply for a new loan with NO repercussions or negative consequences of taking the forbearance. Check what the FHFA has published in regards to forbearance if you don't believe me!

Bonus #3! If you simply want to pay your loan off as quickly as possible so you do not want a "pause" on your loan. GO PAUSE YOUR LOAN. Why? Because if you save that one entire year of paused payments and your bank does not require the lump sum payment which is most likely, you can STILL put all of those saved mortgage payments towards your HOME LOAN and not a penny of it will go to interest! This can shave YEARS off your mortgage if done correctly.

So Bigger Pockets, go ahead and SAVE SOME MONEY!!! Use this money wisely as this is a once in a lifetime opportunity.

Please share anything I have missed below, ask questions, answer questions, etc. 

P.S. to anyone who might say that this strategy is wrong, banks are bleeding from forbearances, etc. I ask you this. 

REMEMBER '08? Who paid for THAT!

You are a newbie to finance and real estate, eh? For one, the Fed doesn't lend to borrowers. For two you neither understand the law of unintended consequences, nor for three that not all loans are identical. Some are FHA, some are VA, some are USDA, some are Fannie Mae, Some are Freddie Mac, some are jumbo, some are commercial, some are private, some are portfolio and I'd bet a 2% shave on your interest rate that you couldn't tell us the difference or which ones are affected.

You should wait until you have a few more years under your belt before putting crap like that on a website.;-)

You've embarrassed yourself.

In fact,your advice is soooo baddddd  I'd delete the account and start a new one. Just sayin'

Post: sell now, gather cash, be prepared and get ready. market crash.

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Originally posted by @Steve Morris:

They want to have cash and be ready for price drops.

Well, if it's anything like 2009-2011, besides some defaults and banks forcing sales, there weren't price drops. The prices stayed flat and sellers just didn't want to sell. Of course, that got followed by 2013-2017 which more than doubled pricing. Hence, I've decided to raise my offer from 40% to 45% on the dollar.

Lol. You're joking, correct? Prices dropped to half in Phoenix, FL, ATL, Inland CA, Las Vegas. 

Post: Can you really buy a property with little to no money?

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Originally posted by @Javen Wilson:

I’ve seen a lot of videos saying you can purchase a property with little to no money. I’m not entirely sure how this works, if it’s possible, or if it’s just a ploy to get you to click on their video.

I’ve also heard some people say that it’s impossible but I don’t really know which to believe. If someone could clear this up for me that’d be awesome.

Who is going to make the mortgage payment and pay for title title insurance, escrow, homeowner's insurance? Who is going to pay the power bill, water bill, property taxes, repairs, etc?

Every property I bought "no money down" has cost me money ;-)

Post: Remove Me From Your List?

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Originally posted by @Michael S.:

@Account Closed Receiving a text message in the middle of a meeting, workday or even spending time with the family is a distraction.  Many text messages I receive for work may be of the urgent nature - simply ignoring them is not an option.  If someone needs me quickly, they don't mail me a letter or even email expecting an immediate answer, they typically call or text.  I'm not sure what is "curious" about this.

So, you admit to receiving text messages, urgent or not and will always look. Certainly you've developed the skill of being able to glance to see if it is "urgent" or can wait. You are going to do that anyway.

While I agree that an unsolicited text messages is a nuisance, there is a "Block this caller" feature you can use (and I do, it cuts down on text messages).  

Your actual argument should be "I pay for the phone service and I resent people using up resources I have paid for", is more compelling.