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All Forum Posts by: John Flanders

John Flanders has started 4 posts and replied 9 times.

Post: Buy and Hold w/ 2 Rentals

John FlandersPosted
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Oleg Komarnytskyy:

@John Flanders How much of your cash are you putting in ? Must be 120k?

 Yes

Post: Buy and Hold w/ 2 Rentals

John FlandersPosted
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2

Hi All - I'm looking to purchase 2 homes totaling $600,000.  Together they would generate gross rents of ~$5,300/month. After all was said and done with mortgage, ins, taxes, misc expenses and a mgmt fee we'd cash flow ~1.5k/mo between the two of them. 

I know I'm not even hitting the 1% rule, but the properties are in an area of town that's incredibly predictable and vacancy is not a worry.  Both of these properties have been rented for 10-15 years. I'm curious how people evaluate income taxes on top of the monthly cash flow to determine if something is a deal they'd move forward on or not.  

Looking at the numbers, I feel like this is a good investment. What would people be wary of? What am I missing?

Post: Buy & Hold on 2 Homes

John FlandersPosted
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2

Hi All - I'm looking to purchase 2 homes totaling $600,000.  Together they would generate gross rents of ~$5,300/month. After all was said and done with mortgage, ins, taxes, misc expenses and a mgmt fee we'd cash flow ~1.5k/mo between the two of them. 

I know I'm not even hitting the 1% rule, but the properties are in an area of town that's incredibly predictable and vacancy is not a worry.  Both of these properties have been rented for 10-15 years. I'm curious how people evaluate income taxes on top of the monthly cash flow to determine if something is a deal they'd move forward on or not.  

Looking at the numbers, I feel like this is a good investment. What would people be wary of? What am I missing?

Post: Thoughts on this transaction/strategy?

John FlandersPosted
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Michael Skoczylas:

That sounds like a good plan. As @Wayne Brooks stated- a 1031 is doable within a few months, particularly if you can show that your intent was to use as a STR and not just a flip. The proceeds can be used to identify both properties and put your down payment on each of them- and finance the rest. I do not see an issue with this plan as long as you show some sort of intent to use as an STR. Let me know if I can answer any other questions. I should add- since its only a few months you would not get the benefit of LTCG treatment, so the plan is a really beneficial one if you can show the intent.

That was my hope.  We already built our AirBNB listing and everything, just waiting to finish the remodel before we went live with it. We also recently added a little one to the family, so the hour drive has started becoming more problematic than we originally anticipated - hence the properties closer to us. 

I guess my other question is around timeline to put together an offer for those properties.  Can we do that now with a contingency on the sale of the cabin, then once accepted we work on the 1031.  I'm sure I could find some details, but figured asking now is best.  What's the best order of things in my scenario? 

Post: Thoughts on this transaction/strategy?

John FlandersPosted
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Wayne Brooks:

 A 1031 after a few months is hard to justify, but doable I think. And the only reason to do a 1031 is to defer taxes on a Profit, how much profit would you have in a few months?

@Dave Foster ??

40-50k. Cabin had two appraisals, one for 315k and one for 275k. We bought it for 255.

It was built 30 years ago and nothing had been updated. Did a ton of updates, opened it up, etc.

Post: Thoughts on this transaction/strategy?

John FlandersPosted
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2

Hi All - My wife and I bought a cabin a few months ago for $250k that is a little over an hour from us that needed some rehab to turn it into a STR. It's by a state park so the numbers provided by AirDNA show really good bookings for about 3/4 of the year (winter has more vacancies but we feel our cabin is a bit more modernized than others and will do fine - we won't be sitting empty for 3 months).

Recently though, a pair of campus properties came up for sale that I'd like to purchase for 330k each.  They're only 20 minutes from us so managing is a lot easier and they have really good numbers for cash flow. I feel like campus properties have great predictability and you don't have to worry about months of vacancies. I also don't foresee the need to campus houses going away any time in the near future.

Considering we've gained some good equity on the cabin, my thought is we use a 1031 Exchange and use the proceeds from that cabin to help us fund the down payment on the 2 campus properties. The campus properties being closer are also easier for us to manage. Thoughts?

Post: Creative FInancing - 2 for 1 Deal?

John FlandersPosted
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Stephanie P.:


@John Flanders

330K sounds really high for Columbus.  

It's off-campus housing by Ohio State.  With traditional financing and 20% down could net about $800-1000 per mo per property.  What type of cash flow do you typically look for on a 330k property?

Post: Creative FInancing - 2 for 1 Deal?

John FlandersPosted
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2

Hi All - New to BiggerPockets and love these forums, so hoping I may get some ideas here. My wife and I are in the process of renovating a STR to hit AirBnb in the next month. While cruising listings I came across a guy who is selling 2 off-campus student houses for about ~330k each that he has been running for about 10-15 years and wants to cash out. I'd like to try to find some more creative ways to knock this out. Any ideas or suggestion?

Post: Buying a cabin for cash flow

John FlandersPosted
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2

Curious if you ever ended up purchasing?