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All Forum Posts by: John Conte

John Conte has started 11 posts and replied 32 times.

Post: Am I Being Unrealistic?

John ContePosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • New York City
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 5
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
Originally posted by @John Conte:
Originally posted by @Dave E.:

@John Conte

What is your NOI (net operating income)?

What is the cap rate?

So the NOI is around 21k, the cap rate on 175k at 100% occupancy is 12%. Even 10% supports over 200k so that's sort of where I'm coming from

that all said what about the neighborhood.. there is a reason that tough neighborhoods sell for much higher cap rates.

and prime real estate or neighborhoods sell for low cap rates..   Cap rate is fine but now you have to do location location location and risk risk risk of tenant base..  so more to it than just cap rate.

 Exactly, kind of what I was getting at in the original post. Personally over 3 years I haven’t had any type of property crime, and but for one, all of my tenants have been great, and they’re all leased for at least another year.  Past performance obviously not being a predictor for future performance and obviously if the market doesn’t support the markup then that’s that, so for me its just a question of how off base my expectations are from the perspective of other investors

Post: Am I Being Unrealistic?

John ContePosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • New York City
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 5
Originally posted by @Dave E.:

@John Conte

What is your NOI (net operating income)?

What is the cap rate?

So the NOI is around 21k, the cap rate on 175k at 100% occupancy is 12%. Even 10% supports over 200k so that's sort of where I'm coming from

Post: Am I Being Unrealistic?

John ContePosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • New York City
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 5
Originally posted by @Dave E.:

@John Conte

The value of the building has little to do with comps or ROI. I am a novice at commercial real estate, but as I understand it, the value is driven by your cap rate and NOI. Figure out those numbers and you can figure out the value of your property.

Right, and according to the ROI the building is worth more than what the agent has quoted me, the agent thinks the building should be listed at the same price when it was at 80% occupancy at 9% net vs now at 100% occupancy which would be yielding 12% net. Just wondering if thats the very high end of the market at 175 and anything above that is kind of pipe-dreamy

Post: Am I Being Unrealistic?

John ContePosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • New York City
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 5
Originally posted by @Taylor L.:

Does the person you're working with specialize in small mixed use commercial? Being a 5 unit this is a commercial property and should be handled by a commercial broker.

They are a commercial broker, and admittedly I have less experience with those comps

Post: Am I Being Unrealistic?

John ContePosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • New York City
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 5

I own a 5 unit mixed use building in the 44110, which I understand a lot of people are avoidant of but has been good to me, for the most part. Considering selling as I'm just in a different place in life, and the agent I'm talking to at the moment quoted me 175k (bought for 85) when the building was 80% occupied and would be generating a net 9% ROI at that number. I've just rented out the final unit, now the net ROI is around 12%, but the agent is still recommending the 175 number. I'm just curious how off base I am in thinking it should be around 200-225, based on the ROI, condition of the building, and multiyear leases in place for the whole building.

Post: Cleveland Mixed Use Property Sales

John ContePosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • New York City
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 5

Looking to see if anyone has recommendations for sales agents in the area, I'm going to put my building up on the market and I'm in contact with a realtor now, but they seem to be a little less than motivated. Would love some input on people with experience in this field and discussion on what a realistic price point would be. Thanks all!

Post: Possible Recourse for Boiler Damage?

John ContePosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • New York City
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 5

So I bought my initial investment property in 2017 in Cleveland, about a month in, the boiler blew. went out, replaced the whole thing, 17k later. Not sure about the ethics or legality of naming the company so I won't do that here unless advised to. Everything was going well, then Friday my super called me and said he smelled smoke, and that the boiler went. I'm not in HVAC but I know that a brand new boiler is supposed to last more than 4 years. They told me they had to look at it on Monday since it was too hot, and they had to get the "right people" in. I'm fairly certain they're going to try to screw me, and get me to pay for a replacement. They're being shady about the warranty and at the moment I don't have access to the paperwork involved with it, so I'm really at a loss as to how to proceed. Is my best shot dealing with the company or taking it straight to the manufacturer? Legal representation? Consumer Protection Bureau? If anyone has thoughts I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!

Post: Wondering if I should go ahead with a sale

John ContePosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • New York City
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 5
Originally posted by @Andrew Weiner:

Do not misstate the sale price, that is almost certainly illegal! I am not an attorney so you can take that with a grain of salt. I would never sign a document that says something different than what the truth is. If your buyer doesn't want the purchase price recorded then you can quit claim the property into an LLC and then sell the LLC, any real estate attorney should be able to help you do this properly.
Good luck!

Yea it feels fishy but its a not uncommon practice in car sales so I was just unsure whether that was a thing that happens and its not really as big a deal as one might think. But it seems like it is. Many thanks!

Post: Wondering if I should go ahead with a sale

John ContePosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • New York City
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 5

Forgot to add:It’s a 5 unit, 3:2 commercial/residential split in Cleveland, in which 4/5 units are rented out.

Post: Wondering if I should go ahead with a sale

John ContePosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • New York City
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 5

Hey everyone, I bought my first building in 2017, for 85k all cash. Put another close to 35k Into it, bringing me to 120 in equity (one of the improvements was a new boiler for 17k in 2017, not sure if i can declare the depreciation on sale or not). The building is unlisted, but someone is interested in buying it, and my lowest price is 160k, which, after capital gains would probably be closer to 149, clearing 15k in profit. I haven’t had the building appraised and the buyer is motivated. The buyer is also asking me to declare the sale at around 90k, which is certainly a red flag, so wondering if thats something to avoid altogether. Thanks everyone!