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@John Clark There isnt much left thats toxic , it all went into the atmosphere .
Not an expert here but my Brother is a heavy equipment operator in Northern CA and did a lot of the fire clean up when those fires happened and he mentioned contractor might need hazard waste removal license.. FWIW
Jay, please tell that to Jim, whose unicorns and fairy dust response (earlier in the thread) to the problem is as follows:
"Also a non-starter is your hyperbolae; "toxic waste lot's"...... Really John, really."
I do wonder just how many people are going to leave California permanently from all this. It might even wind up losing another seat in the House of Representatives.
How many fire claims you dealt with John?
Me, MULTIPLE.
I actually had a fire MYSELF, yes personally.
I've navigated multiple rental property fires, nearly a dozen over the decades.
And yes, I've done fire restoration projects.
I laid out in detail the details and steps of the clean up. You just keep twisting things John so clearly your here to promote an agenda and not for intelligent discourse.
Your entire "detail and steps of the clean up" are, and I quote:
" And some level of clean-up will most likely be done for all private property via local government, as is SOP for disaster cleanup.
Also SOP for such is individual property owners will, individually, address total site cleanup in concert with there insurance providers.
So the whole leaving toxic waste sites BS is just that, BS hyperbole"
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No detail there, Jim, just a lot of wishful thinking on your part and two contradictory statements to boot -- that government will handle all the clean up (that's "big government" by the way) and that individual property owners "will" address "total site cleanup" with "[their] insurance providers."
So you agree to big government and are utterly silent as to unwilling/unable/irresponsible land owners and clean ups, and that's just for starters. Stop ignoring your own contradictions.
And of the fires and fire restorations you've dealt with, Jim, how many involved total and absolute destruction of the premises?
"Claims" are an insurance matter. I've dealt with claims. Eminent domain proceedings, too. Comes with the territory of being a litigation/trial attorney for almost 40 years. Property owner, too.
What's your experience with government powers for rezoning property use after a disaster? I'll give you a hint; the powers are very extensive, and for good reason.
Again, read what I actually wrote, the whole thing, it's got every detail.
If you don't understand some facet, ask questions, don't pretend that your feelings will be right because you lack knowledge and fact's on something.
I detailed LOCAL government will be on point. And they will. Supported by assorted support services related to disaster relief for those applicable parts. FEMA does not come in and take over literally everything, FEMA has certain scopes they cover, state covers some etc etc..
So again, as I detailed, there will FIRST be a general cleanup of the general area lead by this mish-mash of disaster relief agencies AND local government.
Local government is NOT "Big Government", there is a distinction between these 2.
Utilities will be among the first in for cleanup actions.
Than AFTER that base-line cleanup action is done which part of it is to establish access for all others, than things get into the next lower level of details.
Odd's are given the scale of it all there will be some level of general cleanup resources made available for private properties. This could be simple as a coordination of who the debris disposal transportation will be that everyone uses, so it's 1 entity vs 40 trying to get in and out cluttering up area.
But NO, TOTAL site cleanup for individual property owners is all but certain NOT to be done via government, be it BIG or local.
So again, there is steps to it all. They don't just roll in with D11's and clear the place.
Private Properties will NOT be made TOTAL cleared as in build ready for people. If you think that's how it works I challenge you to show me an example of when and where that happened.
For example, FL coordinated debris pickups as private property residents stacked things curb side. FL didn't come into homes and clear them out. People had to get that done, either themself, via vendors etc., and it was on private property owners to sort there insurance themself.
Is that enough detail?