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All Forum Posts by: John Collins

John Collins has started 45 posts and replied 311 times.

Post: How can i earn from Rental properties?

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Originally posted by @Jasraj Singh:

Ali Boone thanks for you advice!

I live in India, New Delhi and the cash flow on almost all the properties are very low plus the vacancy rates are also very high so I'm still a little confused but I'll keep looking for better opportunities!

Are you speaking US dollars or Rupees? Is the property located in the US or India?

Real Estate is a long term game, particularly rentals. It's still very possible to cash flow throughout as astute investors have. 

Here is a very basic breakdown ... 

Say your property costs $500,000 after you negotiate a price then pay closing costs and agent fees. 

Say you bump the rent to 950/month (if you can legally) and have 4 tenants paying this. I personally wouldn't do this deal, because (throwing out hypothetical numbers, % vary based on your income and disposable cash):

Cost: $500,000
Down Payment, 20%: $100,000
15 yr Interest on $400,000, rates for investment property: 3.3% 
Monthly Payment for Principal: $2,820
Maintenance, repairs, taxes: $1,000 / month (this depends on where you live)

Monthly Income: $3,800
Monthly costs: $3,820


Vacancy Allotment: How fast is tenant turnover? What are the jobs and demographics of area? Is it a hot or cold market at this price point? 

These are factors you have to take into consideration, and that doesn't include the condition of the property itself. If it's in an area that will experience a lot of growth you could take the risk but as a first time investor, youre losing a small amount of money each month and that doesn't take into depreciation, major repairs or vacancies which can really crush you if you aren't prepared for it. 

If you really want this property:
1. Negotiate down price to $450,000 , say it's all you can do
2. Live in the property for a year and get a better financing %, although you lose 1 units rent for the short term you gain a lot long term
3. Walk away. Not every property is a deal, the vast majority are not. 

Post: Is now a bad time to buy a single family home?

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The bubble is going to burst and was on it's way to doing so because growth can never be infinite without the environment letting us know who is boss.

But that doesn't mean you shouldn't buy, on the contrary, you should be a lot more aggressive in offering below market. 

Post: What would you do if you were in my shoes

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Whooo boy, Dalhart TX! Would you really find someone to rent a 20k property for $950 there? The whole point of small town TX is a little goes a long way and $950 is a steep askign price. I would sell and keep looking for deals. The more remote locations always haeve them. 

Post: Dave Ramsey is a Genius now

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These kind of absolute I found the holy grail path posts are so naive and cringeworthy. I rose out of poverty because I did nothing but work for 10 years and save (whilst never living on my own or having kids), then put that money into different properties totaling around 1.6 mil at the time. 

If I had used it to buy only 1 source of rental income, "straight cash homie", I would have never been able to scale and take advantage of the opportunities I had at that moment. And as a result, I am absolutely prepared for Corona although my portfolio consists of more high end rentals who aren't going to stop paying or be affected (in the short term... we'll all take a hit from one source or the other over the next 18 months) 

Post: How you can profit from a Big Mortgage

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Originally posted by @Daniel Schiller:

@Andrey Y. The family offices and international investors buying the luxury sector in each market you mentioned are doing so for capital preservation and foreign currency arbitrage. It’s more correlated with the $50MM+ art market than American-style real estate investment.

Even then, the “big boys” playing with leverage in the markets you mentioned routinely run into issues using leverage. Just NYC, check the historical transaction histories on the Empire State Building, Stuyvesant Town–Peter Cooper Village, and 666 Park Ave where the President’s son-in-law fell down the rabbit hole.

Serious players in the trophy market and luxury condo sector are not “BAM”ing it. They are paying cash, because it’s treated more like a CD in their portfolios and provides diversification AWAY from banks. Just look at all the empty sold units / entire floors in buildings in NYC, Miami and Panama City.

Meanwhile, BlackRock’s RE division has a $20B+ US portfolio... focused on what? Cashflow.

Meanwhile,

 Nailed it. 

But its the internet, we all need to be talking heads, have a point, pick a side, and scream it the loudest. 

Cash flow is just a part of the equation, and a vital one at that. Kushner had the President give him 1.1+billion dollars worth of ****** rentals in NJ and Baltimore to provide the cash flow to make up for his BAM mistakes like 666. Which would have bankrupt him. Ed Hardy bros like Grant Cardone are bleeding heavily and let go of their entire staff without notice cuz they assume infinite appreciation and a BAM that will carry them through the finish line. But vacancies, having no tenants... that hurts anyone unless you are talking about millino dollar homes in perfect neighborhoods in very exclusive areas of the country. That makes up what... 1% of the market? 

Originally posted by @Matthew Paul:

I have a small 1 bedroom SFH . Rented it to an old guy who drank . Well his son moved in who was helping him , then the sons crack whore girlfriend moves in to the small place . Well the place was filthy 4 years ago . I figured as long as the rent was paid it was more money , I was gonna have to clean paint and replace a lot anyway . Well today was the move out day , the old guy went into a rehab home . The son got locked up 3 month ago and the prostitute found another sucker to house her . Family members came to do the clean out . They had gloves , tyvec suits , duct tape their sleeves and ankles . Pitch forks , shovels and a 30 yard dumpster . Took 4 of them 3 hours to remove everything and it ALL went in the dumpster , clothes TV , They went to the bed and there were BED BUGS . Walls are yellow from smoke , grease all over oven . ( trash it )

I set off 6 bug bombs , tomorrow I will bleach the entire house and set up a heater to get the building hot enough to kill the bed bugs .  i will use a propane chimney heater and let it rip . Then the cleaning starts . 

Looking to have it all done in 2 weeks , new kitchen cabinets , bath cabinets ,and sink , new baseboard heaters and new paint . 

Pro tip, before you paint, seal everything with a high quality primer. Worth the extra $. 

Post: Why is Rent still due during COVID-19?

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Originally posted by @Michael Klinger:

Backstory... Not quite 2.5 years ago, I 1031 exchanged out of a (mostly) owner occupied office building in Southern California, to (three) C class multi-family properties in the same Midwest city. In doing so, I went from 1 business tenant, to 64 apartment tenants overnight. A very steep learning curve, but I had the help of 2 property management companies to take all worries away (not).

When it all lacked the performance I expected, I tormented my management companies and started getting very hands on. I dove into the trouble areas to identify the cause of under-performance. And during that process I experimented and eventually learned a lot about whatever sweet spot there might be between compassion and a pure business stance, especially related to late rent collections. This (of course), was NOT in response to a global pandemic, but just the everyday survival on a set of investments intended to be cash-flow centric. Money I had hoped to live off from.

Mine are in a landlord friendly county where if you are diligent, stick to the agreed upon lease terms and hold a strict stance, you can have a non-paying tenant out in about a month from when they are late, which starts in the first few days of the month. This also in a increasingly strong rental market, increasingly favorable this, favorable that, etc. Nevertheless, there are/were sad stories when the first (fifth) of the month came around. And between all that a few really-really sad stories. 

Nevertheless (and remembering that all bets are off until how we are in the Covid 19 era and need a month or two to see how if plays out further)... I experimented with the whole spectrum of responses to the sad stories, ranging from total benevolence to non-negotiable evictions.

Contrary to the acts of kindness that the world probably needs now, the benevolent approach did not prove to serve my properties well. Except once in over maybe 20 situations. And that one took well over a year to work itself to a cleared balance, while simultaneously occupying a unit with a legacy rent of $200+ under market. My units pay in the rent ranges of $500 to $950 a month. What I came to learn was that once my tenants got behind by even a couple of weeks, the likely-hood was almost zero that they would ever catch up fully in any reasonable time-frame. Furthermore once they were behind, it would also possibly lead to a promise to pay with a "say anything" level of desperation. Then the next month would roll up with no payment or just $200 when they swore on a stack of bibles that would have $800. And then soon after, either an eviction or a hasty middle-of-the-night move-out with not nearly enough security to cover both damages and back rent. Then often rushing into some other apartment secured by another landlord, before the issue was on their record and the new unsuspecting landlord on the hook.

It's a good reminder that eviction, though often absolutely necessary (and not currently even an option) is an unpleasant result. Not only a sad way to displace a tenant, it is also inevitably expensive with court costs, set-out expenses and a premature turnover of a unit, sometimes left by an angry tenant and so are often damaged more than normal.

One thing that I do see is that a non-paying tenant puts both a literal and cosmic strain on the property. Even if I make certain that that the property is full funded and taken care of, no matter what.

I have come to believe that having a firm stance is the right answer. Also a consistent message that applies to all. This seems right in regards to fair-housing, which, is a on my mind as well. So whatever stance you are prepared to take, you have to hold that stance for everyone.

Is there room for side-bar conversations in particularly difficult circumstances? Yes, no, maybe.

High IQ post, agreed and enjoyed reading it. Truth is what it is, if you don't want to play the game, don't sign up for it. I always get burnt as the nice guy who goes above an dbeyond, and it gets worse with time. A dish served cold also creates a wake up to many that... it has to come from inside of me. 

This isn't war torn Palestine or Syria where things are truly cruel and unfair. 

Post: Why is Rent still due during COVID-19?

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Originally posted by @Jt Abbott:

I wish I had savings, but by the end of the month there isn't anything left. It is important to remember this is a spectrum and renters include a diverse range of peoples ages, backgrounds, financial backgrounds. Not everyone will have that privilege. I think it is important to remember that we as renters are not landowners, we do not have the assets that major real estate companies have created. Maybe rental agencies that cannot allow people to stay where they are in an emergency are unsustainable? Maybe the whole way we look at rent is unsustainable and also incredibly cruel. I mean how many people are the on the streets, while rental agencies own backlogged houses that require maintenance and remain vacant? According the TheHill.com there is 31,000 homeless people vs 41,000 vacant homes in California. More than enough to house California's houseless population, but instead many are cold and in the streets. If your answer to this economic crisis is too kick people out of your properties this might just lead to a drastic increase in crime, cases of Covid-19, and your property values to go down. 

I dont mean to be so aggressive, but peoples live are on the line, and when people flourish the world is beautiful, when they suffer, because of the systems people create.....well

1. Don't have kids before you can afford them, it's not a right. This is a huge trap many get into and somethign I avoided while in poverty
2. Don't live above your means (one of my painters collects unemployment during the winter and drives an Audi).
3. Don't be entitled

And you'll do well in America. But the mainstream culture pushes alot of less capable people in the wrong direction whcih creates a huge sense of entitlement that works against them. Not everyone has a million dollar talent that allows them to get past the rules of actual life. 

So maybe learn from the Asians who happily live with much less stuff and don't resort to violent crime because of lifestyle mistakes you made as an adult? Downgrade living, don't waste money on luxuries and pointless goods, stuff stuff, and use the govt assistance to just get your footing on solid ground. As a landlord if I see people who do that I cut them all the slack in the world. 

Post: Why is Rent still due during COVID-19?

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Originally posted by @Rob Massopust:
Originally posted by @Heather Frusco:

@Rob Massopust I kind of see your point. But Rob, someone is going to pay a grown adult's living costs whether it be the Tenant themselves (the only one responsible for their situation), the LL, or the govt. i.e. american citizens - it doesn't just disappear into thin air. There is only one person responsible for failing to financially prepare or for over extending and then not being able to make rent... there can be all kinds of arguments from social status to hierarchy etc., etc..... regardless they are all mute because at the end of the day only one person is responsible for either paying or not paying their rent. Understanding just as mentioned above that their living expenses don't just 'disappear' into thin air and that someone WILL be responsible for making them... it's only logical to go to the source - the tenant - and offer them options on making rent. Again options infer that rent is still due in some manner... what some are upset about is that these options do not include 'free'... the expectation of such is called entitlement and usually always comes back to hurt those that seek it. 

Yes tenants can seem like that. When I had units in south central LA  or East LA and those low income tenants drove better cars than me, had the best gadgets and what not it seems their priorities are out of whack. But I also saw alot of carnage in 1994, 2000, 2010 and now its coming in 2020. Tenants now a days have an incredible sense of entitlement, try investing and owning in Southern CA, stupid. I had many units in rent controlled LA you talk about hard thats hard. 

We buy property for a plethora of reasons and sometimes it does not work out. The higher end stuff not immune to bad tenants and problems. I know rich people that live like that so it doesnt matter where you are on the economic ladder, stuff happens and people dont handle it well. We are headed to 30%+ unemployment. We might have less evictions and foreclosures because everyone is getting bailed out. Homeowners and Landlords are going to be able to put their loans into forbearance and tenants too. No one is going to be paying anything because the banks are just going to be bought out by the FED. SO who cares at this point. Its past the point of any economic sense at this point anyways. Nothing long term investing is proving to work. We have to own property in the swing times, cycle times we have to rethink our business models. I know I am. Back to the drawing board. We all think owning property is great. Well 2008 was not that long ago. We are still dealing with it. 2020 Covid19 is going to define this next decade. 

So I do apologize if I came off as a douche but just seen this crap for the last 30 years and its really unfair how the system from soup to nuts is designed to fail long term. 

Good luck, stay safe. Buckle up

Man you're whiny. Shouldn't be buying in SoCal unless you can get well below market. If it's too competitive in that region, which I know it is, then start looking out of state.  

Post: How you can profit from a Big Mortgage

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Originally posted by @Andrey Y.:
Originally posted by @John Collins:
Originally posted by @Andrey Y.:

 I am actually cash flowing AND profiting in Hawaii specifically because rental income growth goes hand in hand with appreciation.  I would STILL profit even if my rentals were unoccupied. You cannot say the same thing.

The reason I can cover missed rent payments is because I focus on profitable markets, not to be confused with "cash flow" markets on paper.

What the hell are you talking about? You can cash flow without rental income? At what price point, what mortgage did you take out and how much interest are you paying on it? Simple math is all I ask for.  

 Very simple example. An investor owns a $800K home in a city in California. They earn $60K per year appreciation over the long term (which is $5K per month), which the Turnkey operators will tell you you should accept a $250 per month "cash flow", more than half of which will go to fixing up your boiler, or roof down the line, while the property value doesn't even keep up with inflation.

Do you think @Account Closed @Amit M. (investors who invest for PROFIT) are worried about their tenant not making the April and May mortgage payments? Because all of the people I see worried on all the threads popping up, are not invested in profitable markets. They are invested for "cash flow" because that is what they have been hearing and reading about for the last 10 years.

This is intended to teach, so we can all learn from something like this. At the end of the day, we are all trying to become better investors. Leave the advertising to those who are trying to sell you something. 

Lol, yes... if everyone had Kushmer and Trump's parents we could all play that game but the majority of people need to stay afloat while being landlords. Specifically while starting out, which is people on BP. They don't all cruise out to a cushy 500k a year job at a law firm between collecting rent checks.

You can't talk big before you have the means to do so. 

The $60k/yr appreciation is flat out incorrect. Capital gains taxes, erosion of the property ,depreciation and a cap all cut into it. I have followed homes in Van Nuys, Burbank, Studio City (well, much more expensive there) in that price range and followed them over the past 13...14 years. They've hit a ceiling and will succumb to sprawl as well as new builds after a certain point. 

You can have artifically inflated markets like 2011-2019 but really, there is a cap and it's not infinite. No one is earning 60k/yr in appreciation on a 800k house in a neighborhood like Burbank with no tenants.