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All Forum Posts by: John B.

John B. has started 3 posts and replied 12 times.

Post: Flipper's Deal—SFR in Chicago, IL 60619—My Loss is Your Gain!

John B.Posted
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1

@Tuan L. Emailed you.

Post: Flipper's Deal—SFR in Chicago, IL 60619—My Loss is Your Gain!

John B.Posted
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1

@Tuan L. It's a bungalow with a full basement.

Post: Flipper's Deal—SFR in Chicago, IL 60619—My Loss is Your Gain!

John B.Posted
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1

So we bit off more than we can chew with this one. I'm sure some people on BiggerPockets can relate. 

We bought this house for $22,000 in January 2014 (lol) and over the years we've probably spent four times that money trying to fix it and we're still not nowhere close to finishing it. 

So now we're done. We're exhausted and we just want to get this property off our hands. 

I'm not going to lie, there are a lot of issues with this house still, so I'm not going to tell you it's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity or tell you how much you're going to make off it. I'm not even going to tell you that the obnoxious amount of money we've already spent on it went into the right things. 

All I can tell you is, I'm sure someone with more experience than us can finish this damn house and sell it for profit. Do your own research of how much the turnkey market value is and how much rehab it's going to need, then tell me how much you're willing to pay for it.

TL;DR Make us an offer. Serious cash buyers only as it probably won't qualify for a mortgage. House will be sold AS IS to the highest bidder. 

Post: City of Chicago Violations and Architect

John B.Posted
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1

@John Weidner The problem I think is that we didn't pull the permits properly the first time so from what I can tell they may be more demanding...?

Post: City of Chicago Violations and Architect

John B.Posted
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1

@Prashanth Mahakali Hi, thanks for the advice. How do I find out what the violations are straight from the City of Chicago? Where can I find the number for the easy permit desk? 

Post: City of Chicago Violations and Architect

John B.Posted
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1

So update. The architect says that he's been waiting for the contractor to give him the list of violations, and the contractor tells me he's been waiting for the architect to give him the list of violations. I'm still trying to find out what's going on.

Thanks @Xavier Y. for the reply. I've already checked the website you mentioned and didn't find anything there. We have 2 flips in Chicago that are taking forever to finish.

Post: City of Chicago Violations and Architect

John B.Posted
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1

I have an architect trying to get a permit for a property. He insists there are violations from before we bought the property even though (1) the closing attorney said we got clear title and there's nothing about violations in the closing documents (2) the realtor said he wasn't aware of any violations from before we bought the house and (3) no violations appear when we checked online on the department of buildings website (this one: https://webapps1.cityofchicago.org/buildingviolati...)

Now, this is an old house so some things are bound to not be up to the current codes. Are we really supposed to be fixing every single thing in the house to make it completely up to code before we can sell it? 

For example, we have stairs to the attic and stairs to the basement that the architect is insisting are not up to code and have to be fixed. He says he's been trying to find out from the city hall exactly what violations we have but it's been weeks. If these are really serious violations that we have to fix, shouldn't the information be easier to find?

It's safe to say I'm losing trust in this architect. Does anybody have a recommendation for an architect in Chicago who does drawings for SFH rehabs? Note we're not trying to do anything fancy, just want to get the house to reasonable move-in condition so we can sell it.

Also, what's the best number to call in the City of Chicago to find out about violations? I tried calling the city hall and kept getting passed from one department to another. It also seems like their system doesn't get updated much.

Originally posted by @Jim Gramata:

Glad you got the vacant building thing cleared up. Yes ordinance now requires vacant buildings to be registered. The City or their minions were looking to hold you hostage to collect revenue which they've done. Here is that ordinance which came about from bank owned vacant buildings which were causing lots of problems across the city. 

https://ipiweb.cityofchicago.org/VBR/assets/docs/o...

No an inspection is not a requirement. 

Yes the City holds full dominion over your property in terms of repairs. If they cite you it has to be done. Period. You can appeal but that is not a good idea really. Frankly they usually are accurate on what repairs need to be addressed. They could find stuff on most any building across the city but once you raise the red flag they'll come at you from any advantage to again fill their revenue stream and of course protect public interest. 

 Thanks, Jim. I guess we'll just have to work with the city and get through this. God I hate Chicago.

Originally posted by @Crystal Smith:
Originally posted by @John B.:

I'm a Canadian investor investing long distance in a few cities in the US. I'm having problems with these 2 properties I'm rehabbing in Chicago.

We've been doing work on these two properties for TWO YEARS now. My contractor is slow and he's also been blaming the slowness on various city permits and inspections. Now, we have done a couple other rehabs in other states, we're by no means experts, but does the City of Chicago really normally meddle so much?

You've put the property on the radar by working on it for 2 years.  It's not uncommon for an alderman or someone in a neighborhood to complain or report a property to the city that's been under construction or rehab as long as yours.

We thought we were finally wrapping up on these properties, when the city found out that we didn't register the buildings as vacant. We had no idea this was a requirement and our realtor didn't inform us. 

Your lawyer should have informed you, not the realtor.

1. Is damage assessment inspection a compulsory thing to do before purchasing distressed homes in Chicago?

We've had stop work orders in Chicago before but Not familiar w/ "damage assessment inspection" terminology.  What we do before a purchase is check the 

Chicago City Code Violation Site.   The site lists current/past violations.  If the property is on the site w/ violations then we expect it to be on the city radar.  We then have the attorney check the court docket to see if there are any upcoming court dates for the property.  Talk to the attorney you used to closed to see if the property is on the court docket for a hearing.  Make sure non on the violations require an architect.  If an architect is required ensure that they are a self certified architect.  

2. How binding are their demands? If they want us to fix something, do we have to? What if we don't — does it mean we won't be able to sell the house?

Some demands are binding, but some you may consider challenging.  A demand to demo a garage may be binding, but the demand to build a new could be challenged.  You may decide just to have a parking pad w/ no garage.

 Thanks for your answer, Crystal. I really appreciate all the info you're providing. It seems now that besides a contractor problem, we also have attorney problems. 

How do you ensure that an architect is self certified? Is there a certain kind of qualification I should be looking out for?

Originally posted by @Tony Reyes:

Hey John,

I'll start by saying, that it happens to the best of us. Usually for being uber optimistic. I"m a GC, who works a LOT in the Chatham, Pullman, Calumet Heights neighborhood. We flip are own homes and do work for some prominent investors in this area. 

Secondly. It sounds like your GC never pulled any permits. Hence, the stop work order. The inspection that they are requesting is to see what was possibly done out of code or done without a permit, However I don't believe it is called a "damage assessment inspection". 

I'll answer your questions in the order they were asked.

1.Normally when your buying a home that is on the demo list. Which I'am assuming this was (damage assessment inspection). It means that It has been previously registered with the city. This is typically because the windows have not been bordered up and it has been vacant for some time. Or, because the integrity of the structure is not sound. Either way, it is already on the City's radar so they do regular inspections (drive bys) to see if any change. If not they keep reporting violations to the address. Which your attorney should have been aware when doing the title search. Or at least the next court date. (FYI, If you hold your property in a LLC, your attorney has to go for/with you to court).

That being said, the Inspector probably noticed some activity at your property and saw no permits in the window, while conducting a routine inspection. Which resulted in a stop work order. 

2.The City Inspectors from time to time can request some outrageous stuff, but that isn't the norm. If you have a violation list. The quickest way to resolve your violations, is to consultant an Architect. They will do a walk thru of your property find out what is, and is not in code. Create plans for all the trades and submit to the City. The Building Dept at this point will approve these plans or ask for revisions. In either case by the time the permit is released everyone is on the same page. The GC will manage the schedule and scope of work, based on the approved blueprints. And get you past the critical and final inspections.  This way you are not at the mercy of a disgruntled City inspector misinterpreting the code or giving you a hard time. 

That being said. I do think 2 years is way too long to do any SFR. Contractors build entire homes in less than that. Also, unless your agent is a GC/Contractor, they shouldn't be managing the project/payouts. The agent could unintentionally be paying the individual contractor too much upfront, which put leaves them with more to lose by finishing the job, then to gain. (now, thats not for all contractors).

Also be on the look out for further court dates. 

Hope this helps

Thank you for your answer, it really helps me understand exactly what's going on. It seems like mainly the problem has been with our contractor. At this point, I guess we'll just have to power through and finish things. 

The agent is not exactly project manager, I suppose I used the wrong term. We have a GC, the agent is there as our replacement, to confirm that the GC has done the work required before a draw.

And thanks for saying that it happens to the best of us. It really helps to know that other people also get caught up in the same problems that we're facing. I guess there are worse problems than being too optimistic, they say optimistic people live longer, healthier lives, so I got that going for me at least.