City of Chicago Violations and Architect

City of Chicago Violations and Architect

Chicago, IL · Member since 2015 · 12 posts · 1 vote

I have an architect trying to get a permit for a property. He insists there are violations from before we bought the property even though (1) the closing attorney said we got clear title and there's nothing about violations in the closing documents (2) the realtor said he wasn't aware of any violations from before we bought the house and (3) no violations appear when we checked online on the department of buildings website (this one: https://webapps1.cityofchicago.org/buildingviolati...)

Now, this is an old house so some things are bound to not be up to the current codes. Are we really supposed to be fixing every single thing in the house to make it completely up to code before we can sell it? 

For example, we have stairs to the attic and stairs to the basement that the architect is insisting are not up to code and have to be fixed. He says he's been trying to find out from the city hall exactly what violations we have but it's been weeks. If these are really serious violations that we have to fix, shouldn't the information be easier to find?

It's safe to say I'm losing trust in this architect. Does anybody have a recommendation for an architect in Chicago who does drawings for SFH rehabs? Note we're not trying to do anything fancy, just want to get the house to reasonable move-in condition so we can sell it.

Also, what's the best number to call in the City of Chicago to find out about violations? I tried calling the city hall and kept getting passed from one department to another. It also seems like their system doesn't get updated much.

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Architect · Chicago, IL · Member since 2015 · 93 posts · 130 votes
10y

Hello everyone,

I am an Architect here in Chicago and we specialize in building violations and also work with several attorneys who used to be with the City of Chicago. With regard to violations, in Chicago,,you buy a property, you buy the violations. We often look at multiple resources to find about violations and we also know what to look within the violations. A quick call to the easy permit desk at the city of Chicago is also helpful. We are also part of the "due diligence team" of several investors. Being an investor myself, I know what to look for and sometimes the violations do NOT require drawings. Please reach out to me if you need assistance and my team is ready to help! 

Prashanth Mahakali, AIA

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  • Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2014 · 67 posts · 13 votes
    10y
    Hey John Boon sorry to hear about your issue with your architect. We actually haven't had much success with architects we have used. I unfortunately do not have a good referral for you, however I do know that several attorneys I've spoken with use the City of Chicago Building Violations website. You or your attorney have already done this, but just thought I'd give you the link in case you haven't been. Cook county is very large and there slow to update things, so if it was a recent violation it may not show up in the records. Here's the URL: https://webapps.cityofchicago.org/buildingviolations/violations/searchaddresspage.html Hope this helps! Good luck with the project. Also, what areas are you focusing on. Are you doing more fix and flips or rentals?
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    Real Estate Broker · Chicago, IL · Member since 2013 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    10y

    @John B. - Chicago is not the best at communications between the city, zoning, permits, ect.  It is possible that there were open violations that the city did not put on title yet which would allow you to close with clear title.  But the site you linked to should have been updated with the violations.  (you can PM me the address and I will see what I can find out)

    That being said, it is because of all these different departments saying different things that we have expeditors here.  They have the connections and experience to get all the departments on the same page and have these issues resolved.  If you need one I can refer you to one.  

  • Chicago, IL · Member since 2015 · 12 posts · 1 vote
    10y

    So update. The architect says that he's been waiting for the contractor to give him the list of violations, and the contractor tells me he's been waiting for the architect to give him the list of violations. I'm still trying to find out what's going on.

    Thanks @Xavier Y. for the reply. I've already checked the website you mentioned and didn't find anything there. We have 2 flips in Chicago that are taking forever to finish.

  • Architect · Chicago, IL · Member since 2015 · 93 posts · 130 votes
    10y

    Hello everyone,

    I am an Architect here in Chicago and we specialize in building violations and also work with several attorneys who used to be with the City of Chicago. With regard to violations, in Chicago,,you buy a property, you buy the violations. We often look at multiple resources to find about violations and we also know what to look within the violations. A quick call to the easy permit desk at the city of Chicago is also helpful. We are also part of the "due diligence team" of several investors. Being an investor myself, I know what to look for and sometimes the violations do NOT require drawings. Please reach out to me if you need assistance and my team is ready to help! 

    Prashanth Mahakali, AIA

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    Real Estate Broker · Chicago, IL · Member since 2013 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    10y

    @John B. - I looked online and there are no history of violations with the dept of buildings, so I referred him to an expeditor but you may be able to clear up the confusion

  • Contractor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2016 · 14 posts · 6 votes
    10y
    Let's keep in mind that these are City of Chicago employees and not all of them do there jobs, for example updating the web site....if your architect and or contractor can't spot the violations which are usually easy to spot you may have hired the wrong guys or girls..... I would start with porch or deck, masonry if any, and any new construction that doesn't show permits on the website.. Most times a inspector can't access the interior so they write up porches and brick. I've even witnessed ripped screens and flaking paint on windows get written up... Good luck with working in a City which has no consistency, everyone will have a different opinion on the best way to handle this and every inspector will write it up differently.
  • Chicago, IL · Member since 2014 · 710 posts · 200 votes
    10y

    what specific neighborhood?

    If your trying to convert the attic the stairs will need to be rebuilt.  No big deal it's not a big job to reframe stairs.  

    If your not touching the basement you don't have to rebuild the stairs 

  • Chicago, IL · Member since 2015 · 12 posts · 1 vote
    10y

    @Prashanth Mahakali Hi, thanks for the advice. How do I find out what the violations are straight from the City of Chicago? Where can I find the number for the easy permit desk? 

  • Chicago, IL · Member since 2015 · 12 posts · 1 vote
    10y

    @John Weidner The problem I think is that we didn't pull the permits properly the first time so from what I can tell they may be more demanding...?

  • Architect · Chicago, IL · Member since 2015 · 93 posts · 130 votes
    10y

    please Google "city oF Chicago building department phone numbers'. You should find the numbers and email addresses of people at the easy permit desk. They can only give you an overview as to what needs to be done. I am happy to consult with you to guide you but if you already have an Architect, please have him/her call the EPP desk or contact someone at the building department. I would encourage you to trust the professional of record in this matter. Good luck!

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