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All Forum Posts by: Joe H.

Joe H. has started 12 posts and replied 78 times.

Post: From Abandoned Shell to $1.1+ Million Valuation in 4 Years

Joe H.Posted
  • Developer
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 82
  • Votes 88
Originally posted by @Isza A.:

Wow!! Such a wonderful and inspirational story Joe!  I have a smaller building sort of similar to yours in the Pilsen area (18th and Ashland). Would really appreciate some advice from you or any one else at BP. It is a 3 story building with front and rear apartments on the 2nd and 3rd floor. Commercial on the first floor.  2nd and 3rd floor is water damaged and has been empty for 5 years now. First floor is occupied. I do not have any experience and I am stuck as to where to start with the project. Please advice me as to where to go or books to read.  Thanks a million!

 Wow sounds like you have almost the exact same project as me. Message me if you would like to chat more, I can probably answer any question you have considering I just got ran through the ringer on all the fronts I'm sure you are facing. Sounds like you have an even better location than me though!

Post: From Abandoned Shell to $1.1+ Million Valuation in 4 Years

Joe H.Posted
  • Developer
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 82
  • Votes 88

Thanks for the comments everyone, new faux copper gutters meant to evoke the original cornice that was scrapped are finally going up today! Like the icing on the cake. I'll post some s

Post: From Abandoned Shell to $1.1+ Million Valuation in 4 Years

Joe H.Posted
  • Developer
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 82
  • Votes 88

Thanks for the comments everyone, new faux copper gutters meant to evoke the original cornice that was scrapped are finally going up today! Like the icing on the cake. I'll post some shots later.

Post: From Abandoned Shell to $1.1+ Million Valuation in 4 Years

Joe H.Posted
  • Developer
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 82
  • Votes 88
Originally posted by @Ariel Cohen:

$500k for a 6 family shell is pretty good. Is that including all hard and soft costs?

Pics look great. Building looks really nice!

 My all in will be about $600,000. It's easy to get a good per-door cost when you have no aquisition costs.

Post: From Abandoned Shell to $1.1+ Million Valuation in 4 Years

Joe H.Posted
  • Developer
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 82
  • Votes 88
Originally posted by @John P.:

Looks great!

In addition to $500k how much time do you think you expended? I have to imagine a ton of hours spent on it!?

 Hard to say exactly. Tough to tease out the difference between time spent physically working on it or doing paper work from time spent thinking about it or worrying about it. I would say I've put in at least 500 "hard" hours of work and spent countless more fretting about it.

Post: 4 Unit Building in Chicago's Hot Logan Square

Joe H.Posted
  • Developer
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 82
  • Votes 88

Post: From Abandoned Shell to $1.1+ Million Valuation in 4 Years

Joe H.Posted
  • Developer
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 82
  • Votes 88

@Marco G. Well I was a bit apprehensive about getting before shots in here because they weren't that great and were done on an old film camera, but here are a few I managed to "scan" using my cell phone:

Above Left: the vacant lot behind the garage was a total jungle, the rear wall of the garage and roof was collapsing. 

Above Right: This one is titled "oh ****, what have I done" and features me staring up at the abandoned hulk.

Above Two shots of the state of the interior, you can see piles of debris and the hobo camp that I had to disassemble.

Above: Most of the clumps you see are actual dried human waste, just piles of it everywhere. See in the back left of the lower photo.

Anyhow, a bit of an improvement over the original condition I think... :D

Post: From Abandoned Shell to $1.1+ Million Valuation in 4 Years

Joe H.Posted
  • Developer
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 82
  • Votes 88
Originally posted by @Matt Boyle:

@Joe H. Fantastic job with this property. I hate to see properties like this with so much character and potential left to just crumble. This property is an inspiration for me. Im new to wholesaling in Chicago and hope to complete work like this in the near future!

 It's all about finding the right property for the right price and, most importantly, picking a business pland and sticking to it no matter what it takes. Good luck and happy hunting!

Post: Thoughts on Which Property Management to Use

Joe H.Posted
  • Developer
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 82
  • Votes 88

I wouldn't pay someone who is managing my apartments a full month's rent to lease vacant units, that just incentivizes high turnover which is bad for you. 

I typically charge 5% of gross for something stabilized like that and only bill for service calls that incur actual work. I only charge to rent out aparments during winter months (November 1st through March 1st) and even then it's only 1/2 months rent. If you are managing it properly there shouldn't be any turnover during those months anyhow.

Post: New to Chicago Real Estate - Looking to House Hack!

Joe H.Posted
  • Developer
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 82
  • Votes 88

You'll have a hard time finding anything under $300,000 right now with much value-add in the hottest areas on the North and Northwest side. I would recommend looking at West Pilsen or Little Village as well as some of the near south side areas like Bridgeport or Bronzeville. 

The ideal building for you would be a two flat with an illegal attic apartment, that's how I got my start and it provides optimal rental income while you live in the illegal apartment and don't report yourself to the city!