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All Forum Posts by: Joe Fermin

Joe Fermin has started 8 posts and replied 56 times.

Post: Rookie REI in Las Vegas looking for connections and groups

Joe FerminPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Robert Adams:

@Joe Fermin @Jasmine Joseph welcome to both of you!

What questions do you have so far? Let's see how we can all help get you going in the right direction!

There is a wealth of info and a great network on here so leverage that to get to where you want to be. If I can help with anything reach out anytime.

Thanks very much Robert.  I dont have a ton of specific questions at this time.  Currently trying to figure out our budget and im sure we will have many once we establish that.  

Post: Rookie REI in Las Vegas looking for connections and groups

Joe FerminPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Joel Bongco:

@Joe Fermin @Jasmine Joseph - Aloha Joe and Jasmine! It was pretty frustrating to start out as a Newbie Investor as I got lots of opinions and comments on what to do at a high level, however, nothing actionable and measurable. Local support from credible resources is key! I recommend that you start with Off Market leads (Vacant, Distressed, Out of State Owner, Tax Liens, etc.). Tackling the MLS market is tough. Season veterans will outbid you often since they can do it faster, cheaper with predictable outcomes. Based on my research, there are about 6000+ Vacants/Distressed Properties in Las Vegas. I am currently in Las Vegas for my daughters' 21st birthday and would be open to meet up for Coffee. Please let me know. Mahalo! Joel

Thank you very much Joel.  Guidance is certainly appreciated.  

Post: transferring ownership to llc

Joe FerminPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Luis Alvarez:

Hi @Joe Fermin, to chime in a bit:

If title to the rental properties are currently in your (and/or your wife's) personal names, then it sounds like you would need to transfer title to LLCs so that they can give you an added layer of liability protection.  Without wanting to summon all the BP naysayers against LLCs, let me proceed to touch on some major points:

To @Joe Norman 's point, many (attorneys included) will say you don't have to do an LLC for a rental property because: the corporate veil (what separates you from the business entity) can be easily pierced if you don't treat it legitimately separate, or it's too expensive, or people don't want to hassle with another bank account. Following law school, I went into estate planning and asset protection, so I may be biased when I say this, but not all attorneys and CPAs are created equal. That's not to put anyone down, but remember that everyone has their niche, and even those that work with RE investors sometimes don't know all the nuances that can be state-specific and current law specific.

I believe that (generally) every rental property should be held in it's own LLC because, when set up and maintained properly, the LLC protects from inside and outside liabilities.  I say generally, because every investor and every rental property is unique, and as we say in the legal world:  "It Depends".  And to add on to Joe's point, an umbrella policy is ALSO necessary. It's not a question of this or that...it should be both. Umbrella Policies, and rental insurances are great as your first line of defense, but we all know how insurance companies stay profitable...by trying to deny claims.  So should something happen at one of your rentals, the 1st thing they'll do is look for a way out.  If they do pay out, great, your golden.  If they don't, your defense will be up to containing the damage to that one rental property where the claim arose from.

As for the mechanics of transferring title, it's a fairly simple process, and yes, you will find many things out there about triggering a "due on sale clause" that's found in many modern day mortgages.  But there are ways this risk can be mitigated, through the perspective of estate and trust planning.

This is in no way constitute specific legal advice to you, but just my opinion on the topic.  Feel free to DM if you have any questions!


 thank you very much for this info Luis.  ive found this to be very helpful.  much appreciated

Post: Why Am I Not Selling Multi-Family in Las Vegas?

Joe FerminPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Eric Fernwood:

Hello @Joe Fermin,

Excellent question. Below are my thoughts on Las Vegas condos.

Goal Considerations

Every investment must be evaluated against the goal of getting off and staying off the daily worker treadmill. This requires that your property is continuously occupied by a reliable tenant. A reliable tenant is someone who

  • Has stable employment in a market segment that is very likely to be stable or improve over time
  • Pays all the rent on schedule
  • Takes care of the property
  • Does not cause problems with neighbors
  • Does not engage in illegal activities while on the property
  • Stays for many years

Below is a table comparing what I learned about the demographic for condos compared to the single-family homes that target our tenant segment.

Condo considerations

  • Vacancy Cost -Vacancy costs can have a significant impact on profitability or be a minor expense, depending on how long the tenant remains in the property. Condos typically attract tenants who stay for about two years, resulting in higher vacancy costs compared to our target single-family residences, where tenants typically stay for more than five years.
  • Maintenance costs - Many believe condos have lower maintenance costs than single-family homes. This is generally true in most locations, but not in Las Vegas. Las Vegas is located in the Mojave Desert, which means builders had to use durable materials that could withstand the harsh climate. As shown in the image below, there is not a lot to maintain on the properties we target. In our experience, the maintenance costs of the condos and the single-family homes we target are about the same.
    • Cross-unit maintenance issues - Condos are in close proximity to other units. The result is unwanted interactions. For example, if the unit above you has a leak, it damages your unit. You have almost no way to compel the upstairs owner to fix it, let alone pay for your damage. Sometimes it isn't easy to get hold of the owner. It could take days or weeks. Meanwhile, the problem in your unit gets worse. This is especially true if there is mold caused by a leak upstairs or a unit on the other side of the wall.
    • Condos have a lot of competition - In Las Vegas, condos compete with apartments for tenants. This competition keeps condo rents low. After all, would you rather rent a 20-year-old condo, or a newly built apartment with multiple pools, a theater, a running track, an exercise room, and free WiFi? Thus, condo rents are largely determined by apartment rents.
    • Investor financing - In most cases, financing is available for homebuyers. However, investment financing is only available for condos if at least 50% of the units are owner occupied. More on this later.
    • High HOA fees - Condos typically have high HOA fees, making it difficult to get a reasonable rate of return.
    • Lower price point - As you stated, condos have a lower price point which is attractive.

Appreciation

I analyzed the numbers for sales of 1-bedroom condos and 3-bedroom single-family homes between 2013 and 2019. I selected this time period because the market was distorted by COVID in 2020 and 2021.

To my surprise, while SFR appreciated faster than condos, it was not much faster.

Rent growth

The MLS does not provide rental data statistics. Although I wrote software to generate statistics for our targeted SFRs, it does not work for townhomes or condos. Since I did not have the bandwidth to write software for condos, I will skip this for now.

Available Inventory

I next looked at the range of prices for condos meeting the following criteria:

  • Built in 1990 or later
  • 1 bedroom
  • Within the area outlined below. I chose this area because it is similar to where our data mining software finds most rental property candidates.

I found 50 1-bedroom condos currently for sale, with asking prices ranging from $180,000 to $365,000. Since buying a condo for the same price as a townhome or single-family home would not make sense, I focused on the ten lowest-cost properties in various condominium complexes. Using tax records, I found the percentage of owner-occupied units, as shown in the table below.

As you can see, there is a low rate of owner occupancy in all the complexes. This will likely prevent obtaining investor financing. You might be able to get second home financing, but I do not know what restrictions second home financing has regarding renting the property.

Summary

  • I was surprised to learn that condos appreciated almost as much as single-family homes.
  • The average tenant stay of two years could significantly reduce profitability. If condos are a viable option, I will need to research the time to rent and length of stay for each complex under consideration.
  • Before recommending condos, it is critical to analyze rent growth.
  • Inability to obtain investor financing could kill condos as investments. Does anyone know of a financing source for condos with less than 50% owner occupancy?
  • In my opinion, the most desirable condos would be newer ones (built after 1990) located in built-up areas where new apartment complexes are unlikely to be built and compete with existing condos.

Unless there is a source for investor financing that allows less than 50% owner occupancy, I do not recommend condos. If there is a reasonable financing source, I will dive deeper into condos as investment properties.

Did I miss anything on this quick look at condos?

Thanks for taking the time to do this Eric.  i certainly find this information very useful.  this definitely gives us some food for thought

Post: transferring ownership to llc

Joe FerminPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Joe Norman:

The downside is the hassle and expense (in Maryland we have to pay $400+ filing fees every year to keep the LLC in Good Standing).

The upside is the potential for limited liability, however I've heard from various lawyers that the corporate veil is easy to pierce unless the LLC is completely separate from anything in the owners personal life. IMO liability risk can be handled with an umbrella liability policy, which (again, IMO) all property owners should have anyway.

The other upside is anonymity, which is the reason I recently transferred my properties into an LLC. For me, keeping my name and home address out of the public eye was worth the expense of starting an LLC.


 I appreciate all this info Joe!

Post: transferring ownership to llc

Joe FerminPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Joe Norman:

Dana is spot on. Transferring ownership of the property to an LLC is usually pretty straight forward (although not always desirable). Mortgage companies are very unlikely to transfer a conforming loan to an LLC though, because it gives them less recourse if things go south. There is a reason that commercial loans are more expensive than personal ones.

It's important to note though that you usually do not have to do both. If you change ownership to an LLC that is solely owned by you then lenders usually don't care (or even notice) as long as you continue to make payments on time.


 thank you for this info Joe.  if youve got time id like to hear some reasons why it isnt desirable to transfer ownership to an the llc.  my wife and i are very new to this world.  much appreciated

Post: transferring ownership to llc

Joe FerminPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Dana Yost:

What is your ultimate goal? To get the deed in the name of the LLC, the loan, or both? Transferring title (name on the deed) is a relatively simple process in a lot of places. The best route for you to take is probably dependent on your end goal and why you want to do this.

If you do definitely also want to change the name on the mortgage, it sounds like they're saying it may be possible for the LLC to assume the mortgage. I would proceed cautiously and make sure your mortgage even says it's assumable. I would not just take the word of a CSR at PHH that it's even possible.

I would speak to a manager (in what I believe PHH calls their escalations department) and verify they even will let you change the name to that of an entity and then find out what they need to qualify the LLC and/or change the name. Again though, it may not even be necessary depending on what your end goal is. If you just need to change title on the deed, that can be as simple as recording a one page Quit Claim Deed (can't say for sure as I'm not in Nevada).


 thanks for this insight Dana. i need to look into it further as i am not positive what i want to transfer, whether it be the title or title/loan.  first, we were planning on setting up the llc for some semblance of protection.  i am unsure as to whether that protection is valid if the loan is not in the llcs name.  the csr was actually very helpful.  they didnt commit to anything and forwarded the questions to the manager which then suggested the formal assumption.  i definitely need to do more research on this though

Post: transferring ownership to llc

Joe FerminPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 16

hello all.  our rentals mortgage is held by phh mortgage.  i asked if i can transfer the ownership/loan to an llc, which i was considering starting.  they said that they do not do that, but i may be able to do something called a formal assumption of the debt.  im not familiar with this and was wondering if anyone else had any insight on this.  thanks in advance

Post: CPAs in Las Vegas Area

Joe FerminPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Stephen DeThample:

Vegas CPA


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WITHAEGER,
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thank you stephen

Post: CPAs in Las Vegas Area

Joe FerminPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 16

Evening all.  was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for CPAs in the Las Vegas area that has a good understanding of real estate investing.  Thanks for any insight