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All Forum Posts by: Jodi Taylor

Jodi Taylor has started 9 posts and replied 27 times.

@John Warren Thanks so much for the insight! I will review my cashflow numbers again to see how I'm feeling. 

Hi all. I need some advice from someone with experience working with/building out non-conforming units in Chicago.

I have a 4-unit 12BR4BA multi-family building (all four units are 3BR1BA) that also has a fully open 2,000sqft basement with 2 bathrooms. The building is located in the northern half of the Austin neighborhood in Chicago. The building cashflows decently as is but I'd like to build out the basement to add two studio apartments for increased cashflow. There is also a common laundry room in the basement already that would remain intact. Some of the work included would be adding kitchens (pulling plumbing from bathrooms), insulating the ceiling for sound dampening reasons, various small repairs/cosmetics. Both units would have two entrances/exits but would have non-openable windows. 

Related to this, I have the following questions:

1. Should I pull permits for the work considering the units are non-conforming? Will the city reject the permits since I'm trying to put kitchens in a non-conforming space?

2. What are the risks in building out non-conforming units (I already know a bit about buying buildings that already have them build out)?

3. Anything specific I should know before starting this process? Or be on the lookout for during?

4. Any other insights would be welcome. 

Thanks!

Post: Househack Quadplex in Belmon-Cragin, Chicago, IL

Jodi TaylorPosted
  • Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 22

@Sarita Scherpereel It has definitely come in handy! I actually have it worked into the lease that one of the tenants is responsible for snow removal at one of them, but we still do the other currently. I plan on contracting it out next year rather than take care of small things like that. 

@Michael K. At market rate (which I'm working the inherited tenants towards) with all units rented out, the cap rate would be around 9% without saving for vacancy and capex. While saving for vacancy/capex, I've got it close to 7%, but I've got a healthy capex savings going for a planned roof replacement in a couple years. I honestly don't really look at cap rate, because it doesn't determine whether a property is right for me. For one, it needs to break even or close to it while a unit is vacant/owner-occupied so that I'm living for free (for my househack properties like this one). Secondly, after the one year mark when it's fully rented out, I look for a cash-flow of around $200/door/month and a cash on cash return of 10%+. My goal is cashflow so that I can work towards financial freedom. Everyone has different goals of course and have different requirements based on those goals. Once I get into 5+ unit buildings, I'll likely be paying a lot more attention to cap rate. 

For this property, the current rents are all right around $1,100 with market rate being around $1,300. The building has four 2BR1BA units. 

Post: Househack Quadplex in Belmon-Cragin, Chicago, IL

Jodi TaylorPosted
  • Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 22

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $512,000
Cash invested: $40,000

4-unit building. 50% ownership with a partner. Bought 100% occupied with reliable on-time paying tenants. Terminated the lease with one tenant so partner could move in (FHA loan). Needed minimal repairs and only required 3.5% down payment with FHA loan. Remodeled one unit (owner-occupied unit). Renting a room out in owner-occupied unit so that the building breaks even, including saving substantially for capex/vacancy (roof to be replaced in a couple years).

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

My boyfriend (partner on this deal) and I are trying to scale fast so we can eventually quit our jobs. I did a househack earlier in the year for myself and decided to do one in his name as well. I specifically wanted a four unit property for the extra cashflow long-term. Having a four flat, rather than a 2-3 flat, also allows for us to more easily break even during the 1st year period while living in a unit. Utilizing low down payment loans has helped us grow quickly (3rd property to come soon).

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

I found this deal on the MLS. I had my agent presenting offers to the listing agent. The property was listed for $550k. It was a very tough negotiation where they ended up accepting someone else's offer first... but then it fell through!! They came back to us after it fell through, and we eventually got them down to $512k with a $2,500 seller's credit. (It appraised at $520k.)

How did you finance this deal?

Utilized FHA for a 3.5% down payment and interest rate of 2.75%. Also had the seller's credit negotiated in for $2,500. The cost to close was covered by my partner's savings from regular job. Total cost to close (all inclusive): $23,453.

How did you add value to the deal?

When we acquired the property, there wasn't much that absolutely needed to be done immediately. We did better insulate the crawl space to protect the pipes, water heaters, etc. We took care of various small repairs around the property (roof/chimney repairs, new smoke/carbon detectors throughout, etc.). We have replaced two water heaters and one furnace. We renovated one unit for about $11,500 with brand new cabinets and quartz countertops, fresh paint throughout, and some other items.

What was the outcome?

We kept 3 out of 4 of the original tenants. We have increased the rent on one and will be increasing the rent on the other two when their leases expire in a few months. Have done some renovating but plan to do more renovating as units become vacant for increased rent. The building is currently breaking even while saving for capex/vacancy. After the year mark is up, we are projecting $9,277 annual revenue with a property manager (but plan to self-manage) and saving for capex/vacancy.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

One major thing I've learned is that it is pretty easy to manage two properties yourself when they are right across the street from each other. So glad that we pushed so hard for this second property that is about a 1 minute walk from the first! We have run into a few challenges with furnaces and water heaters failing (all towards the end of their lives and likely why the owner wanted to get out prior to the needed replacement of the furnaces, water heaters, and roof). Always save for Capex!

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Real Estate Agent: Peter Fisk - https://www.jillsilversteingroup.com/
Lender: Zack Karp - https://zacharykarp.com/

Post: Househack Quadplex in Belmon-Cragin, Chicago, IL

Jodi TaylorPosted
  • Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 22

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $512,000
Cash invested: $40,000

4-unit building. 50% ownership with a partner. Bought 100% occupied with reliable on-time paying tenants. Terminated the lease with one tenant so partner could move in (FHA loan). Needed minimal repairs and only required 3.5% down payment with FHA loan. Remodeled one unit (owner-occupied unit). Renting a room out in owner-occupied unit so that the building breaks even, including saving substantially for capex/vacancy (roof to be replaced in a couple years). After the year mark is up, we are projecting $9,277 annual revenue with a property manager and saving for capex/vacancy. I plan to manage the property myself, so the real cash flow will be much higher. My goal is also to slowly transition to a rent by the room strategy which will help cash flow even more!

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

My boyfriend (partner on this deal) and I are trying to scale fast so we can eventually quit our jobs. I did a househack earlier in the year for myself and decided to do one in his name as well. I specifically wanted a four unit property for the extra cashflow long-term. Having a four flat, rather than a 2-3 flat, also allows for us to more easily break even during the 1st year period while living in a unit. Utilizing low down payment loans has helped us grow quickly (3rd property to come soon).

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

I found this deal on the MLS. I had my agent presenting offers to the listing agent. The property was listed for $550k. It was a very tough negotiation where they ended up accepting someone else's offer first... but then it fell through!! They came back to us after it fell through, and we eventually got them down to $512k with a $2,500 seller's credit. (It appraised at $520k.)

How did you finance this deal?

Utilized FHA for a 3.5% down payment and interest rate of 2.75%. Also had the seller's credit negotiated in for $2,500. The cost to close was covered by my partner's savings from regular job. Total cost to close (all inclusive): $23,453.

How did you add value to the deal?

When we acquired the property, there wasn't much that absolutely needed to be done immediately. We did better insulate the crawl space to protect the pipes, water heaters, etc. We took care of various small repairs around the property (roof/chimney repairs, new smoke/carbon detectors throughout, etc.). We have replaced two water heaters and one furnace. We renovated one unit for about $11,500 with brand new cabinets and quartz countertops, fresh paint throughout, and some other items.

What was the outcome?

We kept 3 out of 4 of the original tenants. We have increased the rent on one and will be increasing the rent on the other two when their leases expire in a few months. My partner has put in about $40k overall to the property and will do more renovating as units become vacant for increased rent. The building is currently breaking even while saving for capex/vacancy. We are moving into a rent by the room strategy that will allow for even better cashflow at the one year mark.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

One major thing I've learned is that it is pretty easy to manage two properties yourself when they are right across the street from each other. So glad that we pushed so hard for this second property that is about a 1 minute walk from the first! We have run into a few challenges with furnaces and water heaters failing (all towards the end of their lives and likely why the owner wanted to get out prior to the needed replacement of the furnaces, water heaters, and roof). Always save for Capex!

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Real Estate Agent: Peter Fisk - https://www.jillsilversteingroup.com/
Lender: Zack Karp - https://zacharykarp.com/

Post: Househack Triplex in Belmon-Cragin, Chicago, IL

Jodi TaylorPosted
  • Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 22

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment in Chicago.

Purchase price: $230,000
Cash invested: $31,538

3 unit building. Bought with 100% occupancy with 2/3 reliable tenants and the other one's lease ending soon after purchasing property. I plan to move into the property soon and live for almost free in Chicago.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Doing a house hack allowed me to enter the real estate investment world with little cash. I only had to come up with $11,538 for closing on the property.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

I found this deal on the MLS. I had my agent presenting offers to the listing agent. The property was listed for $259k. My first submitted offer was $216k with a 3% sellers credit (net $209,520). They countered with $234k (with $5k sellers credit included). My 2nd offer was $221k (with 3% seller's credit included). We arrived at an accepted offer of $230k plus $6,840 sellers credit (net $223,160).

How did you finance this deal?

Utilized a conventional HomePossible loan with a 5% DP and low interest rate of 2.5%. Also had $6,840 in seller's credits. DP was covered with my own savings from w-2 job. Total cost to close (all inclusive): $11,538

How did you add value to the deal?

I am adding value by purchasing the property a little under appraised value and executing about $20k in various repairs/rehab. New roof (on main house and detached garage); repairs to old water leak damage to walls and paint units; resolve pest control issues; and take care of small repairs to electrical, plumbing, etc.

What was the outcome?

I am still in the rehab phase, but overall it is going well. Currently without doing any repairs (or very minimal), I am cash flowing about $2k per year with under market rents. Once I get these repairs done, I plan to increase the rent of the current tenants and/or find new tenants. At market rate (while not living in the property), I can cash flow at around $5.5k per year with a 10% PM. While living there, my total housing expenses would be $175 per month (includes capex and vacancy).

Lessons learned? Challenges?

I've had two main challenges since purchasing this property. Number one, I inherited a difficult tenant and should have required more documentation from the seller prior to close to ensure they would be moving out at the end of their lease without issue. Number two, there were some unknown repairs that needed to be done that I was unaware of at close, increasing the overall cash needed for the deal. I originally thought I would need ~$11k for repairs but that change to ~$20k.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Real Estate Agent: Peter Fisk - https://www.jillsilversteingroup.com/
Lender: Zack Karp - https://zacharykarp.com/
Attorney: Kelli Fogarty - https://www.fogartyandfugate.com/

Post: Building a Team in Melrose Park, IL

Jodi TaylorPosted
  • Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 22

Thank you @John Warren! I sent you a connection request.

@Stephen J Davis I will definitely look for a local group to join. Are there any you recommend? Thank you for the tip!

Post: Building a Team in Melrose Park, IL

Jodi TaylorPosted
  • Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 22

Hi all! I just had my first offer ever accepted on a 4-unit building in Melrose Park, IL over the weekend! I'm currently working with my real estate agent to close the deal (hopefully). I'll be using this building as a house hack while renting out the other 3 units. Since I will be living on the property, I plan to manage it myself.

Now that I have my first property in the works, I need to build a team. I need recommendations for a local handyman, plumber, tax accountant, etc. And while we are at it, I'd also gladly take recommendations for property managers and rental listing agents just in case!

Any and all recommendations are welcome. I'm excited to hear back from all of you, and thank you for helping me through this process!

Once I close on the building and get it up and running, I'll be sure to share more information on my deal with all of you :) Hopefully it is a success!

Post: New Investor in Chicago Area!

Jodi TaylorPosted
  • Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 22

@Robin Krieb Thanks, Robin!

I actually already have a realtor, but I'm always up for more connections!

Post: Newbie from Chicago, IL!

Jodi TaylorPosted
  • Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 22

Hi @Cielo Macaraeg! I live in Rogers Park (northern most part of Chicago), and I too am just getting started in real estate investing. I'm aiming for any buy and hold properties I get to be in the San Antonio/San Marcos area, but I am also interested in getting into flips potentially in Chicagoland along with some house hacks along the way.

I've already met a lot of helpful people through Bigger Pockets, so I know you will as well! One loan type that has been suggested to me is Home Possible. You can only qualify under very specific guidelines, so it definitely doesn't work for everybody. Home Possible would allow you to have a 5% DP and save your FHA loan (which can be as low as 3.5% DP I believe) for your second property without having to refinance out of the Home Possible loan. If you are interested, feel free to DM me, and I can share the lenders that have been working with me on it.

There is also the FHA 203k loan that will allow you to include any rehab work in the loan amount.

I'm excited for the chance to connect - see you around!