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All Forum Posts by: Jerome Morelos

Jerome Morelos has started 39 posts and replied 201 times.

Post: Rent by the Room strategy Utilities

Jerome Morelos
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  • Redlands, CA
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I plan on renting out the rooms in my property. Is it best to include the utilities in the rent or split them between the tenants? 

Post: HELOC or Home Equity Fixed Rate Loan

Jerome Morelos
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  • Redlands, CA
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Quote from @Eddie Torres:
Quote from @Jerome Morelos:
Quote from @Eddie Torres:

@Jerome Morelos

Yes. I want to add an ADU on top of my existing garage. I'm applying for the 2nd with Transportation Federal Credit Union. They offer LTV up to 95%.

How appraisers add ADUs to property values seems to still be a challenge. It'd be so simple if they just added the value based on square footage but they don't. Best general rule of thumb that I've heard as far as expected ADU value is you multiply what you can rent it for and multiply it by 100. So if you can rent yours out for 1500, your estimated additional value after ADU build is about $150,000. This obviously can vary but this gives you a good idea. That being said, every county has their own property tax rate. You have to find out what your tax rate is for your county and multiply it by your estimated after build value.

Yea the grant used to have that requirement which is why I steered clear. Like you, my rate is at 3.25%. Since the state only issued a grand total of 19 grants since the program started, they probably realized it wasn't realistic. So they just changed the requirements over the last week or so. You can qualify for the grant now even if you build your ADU with cash, a 2nd or HELOC, or a combination of both. They qualifies almost anyone assuming you meet the income requirement and they are pretty high so most should qualify.

 I will check out that lender, thanks.  Yes I just found out about the change with the grant and will definitely take advantage of it.  Did you pay a lot of fees/closing costs on the Home Equity Fixed Loan? I heard the fees are a lot higher compared to HELOCs 


I am currently in the process of this loan closing. Closing costs are estimated at $2347.00. That's with the appraisal included. Title insurance is also required.
That’s not bad at all! I’m going to give that Credit Union a call. Also will find other lenders to have more options. Keep me updated on your ADU process! 

Post: HELOC or Home Equity Fixed Rate Loan

Jerome Morelos
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  • Redlands, CA
  • Posts 205
  • Votes 88
Quote from @Eddie Torres:

@Jerome Morelos

Yes. I want to add an ADU on top of my existing garage. I'm applying for the 2nd with Transportation Federal Credit Union. They offer LTV up to 95%.

How appraisers add ADUs to property values seems to still be a challenge. It'd be so simple if they just added the value based on square footage but they don't. Best general rule of thumb that I've heard as far as expected ADU value is you multiply what you can rent it for and multiply it by 100. So if you can rent yours out for 1500, your estimated additional value after ADU build is about $150,000. This obviously can vary but this gives you a good idea. That being said, every county has their own property tax rate. You have to find out what your tax rate is for your county and multiply it by your estimated after build value.

Yea the grant used to have that requirement which is why I steered clear. Like you, my rate is at 3.25%. Since the state only issued a grand total of 19 grants since the program started, they probably realized it wasn't realistic. So they just changed the requirements over the last week or so. You can qualify for the grant now even if you build your ADU with cash, a 2nd or HELOC, or a combination of both. They qualifies almost anyone assuming you meet the income requirement and they are pretty high so most should qualify.

 I will check out that lender, thanks.  Yes I just found out about the change with the grant and will definitely take advantage of it.  Did you pay a lot of fees/closing costs on the Home Equity Fixed Loan? I heard the fees are a lot higher compared to HELOCs 

Post: HELOC or Home Equity Fixed Rate Loan

Jerome Morelos
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  • Redlands, CA
  • Posts 205
  • Votes 88
Quote from @Rob Graves:

@Jerome Morelos I have been using a HELOC for the past year to increase my opportunities for investing. The HELOC is on a different rental property that was paid off.

My HELOC had the ability to lock in the rate at any time for a $50 charge, so when the rates were about to jump I locked the rate in at a low rate and at about 28 years. This worked great for me. I could buy houses with cash and low closing costs and then lock the rate in for $50. I can also do this 3 times during the active period of the HELOC. It seemed like the best of option 1 and 2 you mentioned.


I need to find a lender that can offer that. Thank you!

Post: HELOC or Home Equity Fixed Rate Loan

Jerome Morelos
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@Henry Lazerow

It’s a garage conversion.. actually more like 100k with permits, designs, etc. 

Post: HELOC or Home Equity Fixed Rate Loan

Jerome Morelos
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  • Redlands, CA
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@Eddie Torres

Hey Eddie thanks for your input. Are you doing a garage conversion as well? 
What credit union did you use? I think if I could get an interest around what you got, I may consider that option. I had no idea of the possibility that HELOCs could be frozen. Also, how do you estimate the amount of tax increase from the ADU?

I've looked into the 40k ADU grant. It seems that 95% of the lenders require you to refinance your first mortgage, which I would want to avoid (locked in a 3.25% interest rate). I know the grant is in it's early stages and I could see more financial options for ADU's in the future. Another option is to just wait on that? I'm so undecided haha.

Post: HELOC or Home Equity Fixed Rate Loan

Jerome Morelos
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@Sergey A. Petrov Absolutely  not. My market is in SoCal,and it’s hard to find a cash flowing property. 

Post: HELOC or Home Equity Fixed Rate Loan

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@Trevor Alexander 

Thanks for the reply. I do plan on paying off the HELOC in < 5 years using the equity for my next value-add deal. Since HELOCs are interest only during the draw period, my monthly payments would be less than the Home Equity Fixed Loan. Even if interest rates go up to 10%, it would still be around the same monthly payment as the fixed loan. Interest rates would have to go past 15% in order for it to break even, which I doubt will happen within 5 years.

Post: HELOC or Home Equity Fixed Rate Loan

Jerome Morelos
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  • Redlands, CA
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I'm debating on whether to use a HELOC or a Home Equity Fixed Rate Loan to finance a garage conversion ADU. I am in the process of getting bids for the 350 sq ft garage conversion ADU, but I'm expecting 70-85k. Could rent it for $1,500. What are your thoughts on my 3 options below:

1) Use a HELOC to finance a garage conversion ADU. Use the cash flow from that + my W-2 income to save up for another value-add, owner-occupy property. As soon as there's enough equity, refinance and pay off the HELOC on the first. Issue of course is the ARM on the HELOC, but I get the flexibility and interest-only payment option.

2) Use a Home Equity Fixed Rate Loan to finance a garage conversion ADU. and repeat the process in option 1. The interest rate will be higher than the HELOC, but with the peace of mind of a fixed rate. I've gotten quotes of 7.35%, term 20 years. I also won't have the flexibility of the HELOC and will be required to pay P+I on the lump sump borrowed from the gecko.

3) Hold off on the garage conversion ADU and use a HELOC to acquire my 2nd value-add property instead. The opportunity cost would be the cash flow from the ADU. This is all in SoCal, so that cash flow would be nice.

Post: Financing a Detatched ADU using Renofi.

Jerome Morelos
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  • Redlands, CA
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Quote from @Mario Stowers:

Hello you all. We have a couple SFR in Redlands. Most of which have ADU's. We also host meet ups monthly in the area sometimes at one of our ADU's. We are very will versed in the ADU area of investing. Please join us at one of our meetups and lets talk. I think I am allowed to share my contact info 909-754-0602. Full disclosure I am a mortgage lender and own a ADU company based out of Redlands CA

Strategic-conversions.com 

To answer your initial questions 

1. You would be required to pay both 1st and 2nd loans if you refinance  

2. The Grant is for preconstruction costs (plans/ permits/ etc) and they are going to be more creative as to how this money is disbursed in the future but no promises as of yet.

3. With our 2 car garages converted we saw on average about a $250/ year increase on taxes (not a big deal) Insurance about $10/ month once you disclose to them that you added an ADU

4. Its not so bad to refi cash out to build an ADU if the numbers make sense. I call it the BRARR method LOL. There are certain things to keep in mind if you plan on refinancing when it comes to the appraisal like keeping access to the main unit so the added square footage is calculated when they run comps etc. A lot of these things we learned the hard way!

Our company does 2 car garage conversions for around 65K and you can also sometimes do a junior ADU within the main house that cost a lot less (under 20K) So that could change your options a bit. But call me if we can help in any way and lets all get together and chat it up Thank you

Thank you for the information.

Definitely interested in attending the meet-ups! I’ll give you a text in a bit.