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All Forum Posts by: John Farkas

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Originally posted by @Mike Lambert:

@Julieta Osuna

@John Farkas

Pretty much everywhere, property prices have increased much quicker than long-term rents. So, if you have to pay cash for a property, your ROI will be low.

In developed countries like the US or Canada, investing in long term rentals can be profitable because you can get a mortgage at a very low interest rate and your tenants will pay for your mortgage. Moreover, you can get your invested money back by refinancing. You can do that in Europe as well (although not necessarily the refinancing part) but I wouldn't want to be a foreign investor in a country that are laws favorable for the tenants.

In developing countries, while property prices are lower, long term rents are generally extremely low and the demand is low because of the lack of a large enough middle classes; the wealthy own their own property so they won't rent.

If I want to invest in short-term rentals however, I'll do it outside of the US and Canada. Why? To illustrate this, let's compare a short-term rental in Mexico vs the US:

1. An equivalent property is much cheaper in Mexico than in the US.

2. Yet, the potential rental income will be much higher in Mexico for the following reasons.

3. The nightly rate will be higher in Mexico as people are willing to pay more for a holiday in the sun.

4. The season will be much longer in Mexico, which will translate in a much higher occupancy.

5. The competition in Mexico is much less because there is less offer and more demand. There is less offer in Mexico because only the properties that have a western level of luxury can be rented will there is a massive influx of tourists in Mexico every year.

6. While Mexico encourages short-term rentals, they are (strictly) regulated if not outright banned in the most popular US destinations (that is when they are not already banned by the HOA).

To partly compensate for that, the US has the advantage of the mortgage. However, if, like me, you manage to get financing in places like Mexico, there is no contest!

Finally, long-term rentals have the advantage of full or almost full occupancy. However, in most places, short-term rents are so much higher than long-term rents that you'll almost always make more Monet if you choose the right property in the right place and execute the right marketing strategy.

For example, in Uruguay, there is an area where you can make a double-digit rental return by renting your beach house during only two months of the year (in high season obviously). So, you'd make more money renting over just two months than most long-term renters make over a whole year.

@Mike Lambert

Good post and points.

You are right about the low ROI due to cash market in developing countries. I was able to get developer financing on one project, but the downside is the 9% interest rate which is pretty standard in Mexico from what I have seen.

Where in Uruguay are you suggesting is a good STR market?

Originally posted by @Julieta Osuna:

@Benjamin A Ersing Thank you so much on sharing your experience; i've learned several things by the answers i got on this post! but one of them is thata apparently a beach condo on a place like PDC may give great returns thru Airbnb but, it may stay vacant some months of the year; while where i live (Guadalajara) i don't have that high returns on any month but is pretty average during the whole year. 

Hi Julieta,

That is the difference between short term rentals and long term rentals. You can make more money on short term rentals, but it is more work and more risk. I have done both and I will probably switch back to STR when the market picks back up in maybe another year. My advice to you and anyone else is to buy really nice properties in great locations and furnish them appropriately because when you own desirable properties it is easier to rent it out and you will have less vacancies and that will give you peace of mind.

@benjamin 

@Benjamin A Ersing That's cash on cash. Sure, I would be happy to exchange notes. How far along are you with your strategy? What areas are you invested in or looking to invest in?

@Julieta Osuna Hi Julieta,

I only have one condo operational in PDC, all others are under construction. I am getting a very modest 4% ROI, but I am OK with that because it is a passive investment. As stated previously I Did have some great months using airBNB during high season, but that also came with 2 months of no bookings during low season. So I opted to lease out yearly to ensure a positive cashflow. The developer was the Kaua Group and the development is Solea. They did meet my expectations overall. The unit is lovely and well constructed however I have learned that it is unrealistic to expect no issues. I had an AC unit go out in one instance and also there was a plumbing problem as well. Both of these incidents lead to me having to payout my Airbnb guests. I did have my real estate agent request reimbursement from the developer and I did get my money back, but it took a couple of months so overall I am happy. There are a lot of good developers and developments in PDC & Tulum. My other condo in PDC is Ipana by Simca Desarrollos which is still under construction.

@Mike Lambert Thank you for such a thoughtful long and detailed reply to my post, lots of good information there. Like I posted previously, I am more of a lifestyle investor in that my total approach is for my nomadic lifestyle retirement. I am not advocating that others copy what I am doing. I have long planned to retire outside of the USA, but I came to the realize IMO that a better approach for me would be a nomadic approach and travel on tourist visas rather than picking one country and getting a retirement visa or residency and having to deal with any tax & visa issues. I won't argue that a different approach would make more money, but I am doing what I want to do for my own reasons. agreed this is an investment forum so I don't really have a lot to contribute here hence why I only posted for the first time yesterday. agreed about what you said about Asia, but I'll take my chances. In regards to PDC there were some months that I made $1800 and other months that I made zero using AirBNB. I think it got a little over saturated so I switched to long term rental for peace of mind. I like the money flowing one direction.

Hi Julieta,

I am also an international pre construction condo investor as well. So far I have done alright, but I have a unique strategy specifically for my situation. I am planning on retiring in 2030 so I am acquiring various condos around the world. I have no US properties. My first condo in Playa Del Carmen is operational and I am clearing $535 per month on a long term rental contract. I did do the AirBNB STR for a while and some months I made $1500 after expenses and other months I made nothing and actually had to send money to my property manager so I went to long term contract for now. I have other condos under construction in Playa, Tulum, Pattaya Thailand and Phnom Penh Cambodia. I like the pre construction because it gives me time to come up with the money on a schedule. I know that my returns are not great and most others would suggest a different strategy for better returns, but I like my properties and I will be able to use them on occasion for vacation and/or retirement. Part of my retirement strategy involves travelling a lot, especially in SouthEast Asia (Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand, Malaysia) as the cost of living is much cheaper than the US and I enjoy the food & culture. Sorry to hear that you are not happy with your condo, it can be hard to get out of it at times. I really love my condos and their locations. I look at it like this: I paid $177K for a beautiful large 1 bedroom condo 5 minutes walk to the beach, How much would that cost here in California? To me it is a great deal. I paid my property taxes a few months ago, it was $94 for the year. I am done collecting condos in Mexico, but my new focus is Cambodia. I just bought a nice 2 bedroom (converted to 1 bedroom) for $74K in a mixed use building (residential, office space, ground floor retail). Think of Phnom Penh Cambodia like Bangkok Thailand was 30 years ago. I think it is a great place to invest and so does the Nomad Capitalist. My advise for what its worth would be to diversify a bit. I am not sure what attracted you to Guadalajara, I am mostly attracted to beach front tourist destinations (who doesn't like the beach?). My only condo that is not by the beach is my Phnom Penh which is the capital city of Cambodia. I bought that one because it was a great investment and I liked the building schedule due to be complete in 2023.