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All Forum Posts by: Jim Groves

Jim Groves has started 2 posts and replied 111 times.

Post: LIHTC (Section 42) Apartment complexes

Jim GrovesPosted
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  • Chicago, IL
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There is also the possibility that the partnership can reapply for the credits and re-syndicate them as long as the project still meets the standards of the QAP.  Some states are trying to preserve affordability, so there may be a special set-aside for your project. But if you don't have an interest in the GP this process won't benefit you.  If you have an LP interest, the answer is a lot more complicated.  Typically the partnership agreements features a buyout option or ROFR.  If the GP buys out the LP interest, it would be at the greater of fair market or unpaid tax benefits and exit taxes.  However, the GP can also elect to do none of these and the LP interests will continue for the term specified in the partnership agreement.

Post: LIHTC construction

Jim GrovesPosted
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  • Chicago, IL
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Yes, it's a complicated application process whereby you apply for the LIHTC prior to construction.  You basically need to know you've been awarded the credits, otherwise you won't have the capital to complete it.  You can check out our site for more info.

Post: Affordable Housing Resources?

Jim GrovesPosted
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Originally posted by @Vitaly Lunev:

Sorry if I did not make it clear in my message but there are not any resources that bring it all together. You can read the HUD MAP Guide (they just re-released it and it the first link in google if you type in HUD MAP Guide) and HUD's guidance on LIHTC PILOT processing below is http://portal.hud.gov/hudportal/HUD/program_office.... Both sources are very lengthy and highly technical, as their target audience are underwriters. They also do not really deal with the LIHTC portion and how it is awarded what is the difference between 4% and 9% tax credits, what state by state requirements are etc. Hope that information helps and best of luck again, affordable can be very good for you and society as a whole when done right! 

 @Vitaly Lunev, I agree that the resources are too technical and we're working to simplify. If you check out our site there is an education center regarding the LIHTC program. We're also working on a state by state application process online, as the State QAPs can be very lengthy.  Let me know your thoughts.

Post: SEC Approves Title III of JOBS Act

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  • Chicago, IL
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I've never thought this was going to have much impact on real estate as there are many other areas where non-accredited investors can participate.  I thought this would be better for the small businesses that can tap into capital from their loyal customer base.  But so far even that hasn't gone as planned: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-startups-crowdfunding-idUSKCN0Y92EN

Post: Crowdfunding for Real Estate Investment

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Originally posted by @Bryan Hancock:

Yes, there are over 200 platforms and I stand by my statement that almost ALL of them are run by people with very little experience in the industry.  These platforms wouldn't know what good underwriting is because they've never done real estate deals before and don't know what to look for. 

I was sent an apartment portfolio package from one last week that was littered with poor underwriting.  When we pressed them for more information they had to go back to the sponsors to get it.  Any platform with decent underwriters would have had this information readily available.  Unfortunately this is very common in the industry.  

Venture funding is also a large part of the problem.  The platforms are built to sell instead of built to hold.  This didn't work out so well during the mortgage crisis and I don't expect it to work out well in this industry either.  Venture funding masks fundamentally poor business models in the industry.  In fact, one of the industry leaders has exited the typical industry model entirely.  This is after a crusade about wishing to have people invest in their communities.  Broker-dealers have historically avoided the part of the industry currently being served by the platforms as well because it is extremely hard to make any money there with all of the regulatory burdens absent some sort of RIA co-investment type model that is supplemented by other sources of revenue.  A strictly brokered model doesn't work well.  

 I might have a little more respect for the experience than Bryan but it is clear that the great shakeout that many of us anticipated has already begun.  The news yesterday regarding Lending Club will only accelerate the flight of capital away from the marketplace sector.  Investors are starting to rightly question the underwriting standards of this emerging business, and we're determining that the algorithms aren't working the way we thought.  Imagine how bad this would be if we actually were in a recession!

Until this shakeout is complete, I think we're going to see the traditional players utilizing crowdfunding as a side business to complement their traditional capital raise.   

Post: Crowdfunding in Equity Investment - Tax Implications?

Jim GrovesPosted
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  • Chicago, IL
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Ron, for what it's worth I make debt investments with my SDIRA, which appears to be a popular option on the most popular debt crowdfunding platforms.  I wouldn't use it for equity crowdfunding because you may be missing out on some of the favorable tax treatment available for those types of investments (e.g. capital gains, depreciation).  Granted, everyone has a different situation and may not be able to enjoy those benefits, but in my situation I prefer to use taxable money for equity.

Post: SDIRA recommendations

Jim GrovesPosted
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  • Chicago, IL
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I moved to Self Directed IRA Services aka Horizon Bank. It's early, but it was very easy to do online and they handled the rest. I invest through them on Peer Street and they also work with Lending Club. Later I'd like to use it for direct investments but I can't comment on how that would work with them.

Post: New construction projects

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That post is related to mezzanine financing for companies.  Real estate mezzanine loans wouldn't come anywhere close to those returns.  Typically returns are in the 9-14% range and pay current coupons with no upside.

Post: Real Estate Crowdfunding Attorney from sunny SoCal

Jim GrovesPosted
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Hi Amy, I've read a lot of your work and look forward to your contributions.  There was a subject thread where BQ remoteness of the LLCs was discussed, and I know that you were instrumental in developing POL's format so thought you could comment there.

Post: State of the Commercial Real Estate Market and 2016 Forecast

Jim GrovesPosted
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  • Chicago, IL
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I see a lot more headwinds (Chinese economy, oil prices in oil states, credit market turmoil) than tailwinds (household creation/job growth, consumer spending).  This idea that the stock market crash is going to somehow lead to a flood of capital into real estate is fantasy.  This doesn't mean to sell, just be a lot more careful.