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All Forum Posts by: Jordan Finkelman

Jordan Finkelman has started 1 posts and replied 29 times.

Post: TOMORROW: Great Opportunity Investors Meet-Up @ 6:15pm Ft.Laud

Jordan FinkelmanPosted
  • Development Coordinator
  • Miami, FL
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 9

I'll be there!

Post: Retail Shopping Center in Little Havana - Miami, Florida

Jordan FinkelmanPosted
  • Development Coordinator
  • Miami, FL
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 9

So basically, the seller thinks this is worth a 5.5% cap rate on existing income. It gets worse, because there is no vacancy factor accounted for in the NOI. Even if it's fully occupied, you still have to take a 5% vacancy factor for a retail deal like this. I also do not see a management fee - typically this runs a minimum of 3% of EGI if not more. I think the seller's expectations are very high.

Post: Miami / S. Florida Meet Up

Jordan FinkelmanPosted
  • Development Coordinator
  • Miami, FL
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 9

thanks - wish I could subscribe to mailing list.  

Post: Miami / S. Florida Meet Up

Jordan FinkelmanPosted
  • Development Coordinator
  • Miami, FL
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 9

I read the email too late.  When is the next one?

Post: First Deal for a new investor

Jordan FinkelmanPosted
  • Development Coordinator
  • Miami, FL
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 9

You will never know if you don't offer.  If your unsure, be conservative and offer on the low side.  If it's too much work, never hurts to make a verbal, email or text offer.  Obviously it's not as good, but if your in the ballpark i think you will get noticed.  

One note about vacancy, it varies in different markets but if you only have 2 or 3 units, I would plan on 1 month a year each being vacant, which comes to 8.33%.  If you do better, then great.  Just a suggestion to run the numbers with one month vacancy.  I don't know the market and if your market has a low vacancy, then 5% might be the way to go.

Someone once told me that for apartment buildings, they use the higher of:

1) 5%

2) Historic vacancy of the building/property

3) Market vacancy

Hope this helps.

Post: Life decision

Jordan FinkelmanPosted
  • Development Coordinator
  • Miami, FL
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 9

@Brian C.

I would actually cut your expenses now, instead of waiting.  Save up a larger reserve.  How crappy would it feel if you made it 4 months and are just starting to get the hang of wholesaling and you run out of cash?  That setback would force you back into the workforce and cause more delay and stress in the long run.  Takes time to get deal flow.

You would be best served by changing jobs into the same industry if you are happy with your career.  I was in a similar situation last year.  I was working in hedge fund administration and felt similarly to you.  While there, I started reading up on BP and realized that I wanted to work in real estate but not in sales.  I switched jobs and now work as a financial analyst at a commercial real estate brokerage firm for an agent and love what i do which is mostly analyzing retail and net leased properties.  I am just 2 years out of college, but this is what I should have done from the beginning.  It's still early for me so I consider myself lucky that I found out what I wanted to do early on and found a way in.  So for me, i switched industries and hence career.  If you are already in a field you like, stay there but find a better/different firm to work for.

If you insist on going REI full time, know that it is a really hard path and uphill battle - at least I have heard (from multiple people who have done it). They recommend against starting out full time REI in most cases for most people. At a minimum, make sure you make some kind of income and live below your means. Even if it's $8/hr. I have never worked part time but 20 hrs/wk at $10/hr gets you $800/mo. For example, if you can get your expenses down to $1200 from $2000/mo, you will only bleed out $400/mo instead of $1,200 (plug in your own numbers of course) and will buy yourself more time. Nothing to be ashamed of doing this strategy either, as long as you stick to your plan.

Personally, my favorite REI article of all time, written by @Brandon Turner below, is how I modeled my strategy off of (thanks BT!) which is best executed with the income from a W2 job at least in the beginning years.  My plan is different since it involves commercial real estate properties instead of small MF, although i am essentially using the same strategy except with less frequent purchases and only buying 2 - 3 properties over time and with small partnerships.  I prefer commercial and am well positioned to implement this strategy.  This article will encourage you to switch companies instead of losing a large chunk of your W2 income.  

To recap, my advice is to keep working a full time with a job that does not drive you crazy.

http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2014/08/02..

Post: Rental Properties Calculator

Jordan FinkelmanPosted
  • Development Coordinator
  • Miami, FL
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 9

You can also get a quote from an insurance agent.  It's free and painless.

Post: How scary are balloon payments / short term debt?

Jordan FinkelmanPosted
  • Development Coordinator
  • Miami, FL
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 9
Originally posted by @Adam Johnson:

An important point to look at is the difference between a balloon on an investment versus a balloon on primary residence.  We will assume that we are talking about investment properties and also that the investment cash flows and made sense to buy in the first place.  If those 2 assumptions are true, then the balloon doesn't have to be scary.

Let's say you have a commercial property consisting of 10-units (apartments, retail, whatever, just think in general terms for now).  You have analyzed the investment and it meets your goals for cashflow and ability to support it's own debt service.  You borrow money on a 20 year amortization with a 10-year balloon.  Let's also assume that there is a rate adjustment built in for year 5, since that is fairly common in commercial lending.

Where we are with interest rates today we may never see again in a life time, rates will likely inch up over the next several years.  Typically, interest rates adjust to curb inflation as the economy starts to improve.  I am not an economist so I am not going to throw out any specific prediction, other than to say they will probably go up.  My uneducated guess would be that in five years they may be up a couple points.

So tackling the rate adjustment first, you should look down the road at a possible rate bump and make sure that your property can support it.  Yes, this will bite into your net income BUT, as @Joel Owens points out, many commercial leases have rent bumps written in to them.  If you are renting apartments, you may be able to bump rents somewhat to keep up with your increased interest (and other) cost.  This is, very simply, why inflation happens by the way.  In the end, most likely if you are managing your asset well, you won't see much of a change on net income even if the rate bumps a few points.

Now for the balloon.  Let's say you buy a $ 500,000 property and put 20% down, so you are borrowing $ 400,000 on a property that we will assume was in a stable market and really worth the purchase price you paid when you bought it.  Your Loan to Value is 80%.  Let's assume that the market remains stable and that there is no real appreciation in value.  Let's also assume so I have some numbers to plug that there is no rate adjustment in year 5 and that you borrowed the money 20/10 at 5.8% interest.  I'm doing this to simplify the analysis, so bear with me.  Fast forward 9 1/2 years and you start to panic over the balloon.  Check out these numbers:

You have paid $ 2,819.76 every month on time for the last 9.5 years.  Your lender contacts you, or you contact your lender, and you learn that they have chosen NOT to renew the mortgage for another 10 years.  As an aside, they MAY choose to renew at a new rate and you may decide to do so.  For my example, though, we are assuming the worse case and they are calling the debt due.  To keep our analysis easy, I am going to also assume that you have to refinance and do so exactly at year 10, so you have made 120 payments.

So, at the end of the 10th year, your principal balance is approximately $ 256,298. Assuming still, no appreciation in property value, your LTV is now just over 51% due to the loan amortization. My bet is that if your payment history is good, the asset has been maintained, and there are no major red flags, you will have no problem AT LEAST refinancing the principal balance remaining. It is also quite possible that you will not only be able to finance the principal balance, but you may also take cash out and walk away with cash in hand to put into another investment. You will then have leveraged your equity to use for even more investments.

Carefully managed financing doesn't have to be scary.   Understanding it helps.  Many of our loans are commercial.  Closing costs can be higher than residential loans.  However, being able to cash out offers a lot of options.  Keep in mind that banks WANT to lend money.  A mortgage held by a bank is an ASSET on their balance sheet that creates a return, in the form of interest.  They don't want too much cash sitting idle.  If you present them with a fair risk (you pay your bills, the asset/property is stable and well managed, etc.), they will want to lend money to you now and also later when your balloon is due.

@Joel Owens

Say you have a triple net strip center with the primary tenant having 5 years remaining. It seems that getting debt to match the term of the lease is no problem, but what about going beyond that? Would it be possible to get 10 year debt with a personal guarantee from a borrower with liquidity of several times the size of the loan (despite only 5 years remaining on the tenant? Not to mention that after 5 years, the property will be close to 50% LTV (based on initial price). Of course, the lender assumes the tenant moves out for their underwriting and property value drops significantly so it's no longer a true 50% LTV after 5 years.

Thanks

Post: Will be renting to our daughter.

Jordan FinkelmanPosted
  • Development Coordinator
  • Miami, FL
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 9

Don't do it.  It's not worth it - perhaps you are doing her a favor and it is below market rent.  Even then, how do you benefit?  You are better off giving her $200/mo towards a $600/mo rental and renting yours to someone else for $600 (i don't know what the rents are by you, but i assumed you were giving your daughter a break on the rent rate).  Same net dollars for you at the end of the day, plus you avoid the potential problems, plus your daughter gets just as nice of a place paying $600 to someone else instead of $400 to you.  The $600 figure is just to illustrate a point.    

Post: 48 Unit Apartment - 12.5 Cap Rate

Jordan FinkelmanPosted
  • Development Coordinator
  • Miami, FL
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 9

@Kenneth Hester

Please send me everything.

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