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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 1 posts and replied 15 times.

Post: New Member for Seattle

Account ClosedPosted
  • Vancouver, WA
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Originally posted by @Walter W.:

Welcome to BP, Jessica.  I wish you all the best in your real estate endeavors. 

Have you read Frank Gallinelli's What Every Real Estate Investor Needs to Know About Cash Flow... And 36 Other Key Financial Measures? It would be a good one to pick up. 

@Account Closed

 I have not, but I will. Thank you!

Post: New Member for Seattle

Account ClosedPosted
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 16
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Originally posted by @Troy Fisher:

Hey Jessica, we've got a great BP community here in Seattle and I could probably name a bunch of people here locally that you can use as your boots on the ground, as Daniel proves it is possible to be overseas and invest in the states, especially when you use BP to it's fullest potential!

 Thank you Troy! I would love some names whenever you have the time. I likely won’t invest for a few years but I’m preparing now.

Post: New Member for Seattle

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  • Vancouver, WA
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Originally posted by @Dmitriy Fomichenko:

Welcome to BP family @Account Closed You came to the right place to learn about various aspects of real estate and more!

All the best to you!

 Hi! I watched the video on your site. I like the end part when you mentioned becoming like a bank, where you can invest in others. It sounds like a good way to make a difference in the world. Thanks for introducing yourself.

Post: New Member from Seattle \o/

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  • Vancouver, WA
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 @Ryan B.:

Hi Ryan, welcome! I've been looking at properties there but I'm dissatisfied with the HOA fees on the condos! Keep in touch, I'd love to hear about your experiences in the future.

Post: Relocating to Seattle Any Advice?

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  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 16
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Hi, I used to work at Seattle Lighting. We used to sell lighting to a lot of builders and flippers. You might try calling there to ask if they could refer you to some of their steady accounts. Call downtown Seattle or the Bellevue location. 

Post: REIT vs Multi unit investing

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  • Vancouver, WA
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Originally posted by @Mark S.:

@David Ma

Thank you for starting this thread; I was about to start one just like it, but figured I'd run a quick search to see if anything else was out there first. I'm struggling with the same thing. Some of the buy-and-hold investors on here are picking up AWESOME deals on rental property, where their returns will almost certainly outperform those of a REIT. Unfortunately, I don't seem to be able to find those deals in my market.

I don't have the time/desire for extensive repairs, and I'd have to hire it all out anyway, so I'd end up paying top dollar. I would need something turnkey, therefore, I'd likely pay quite a bit more for the property. After all the normal expenses, and I do include property management because I don't necessarily want to self-manage, my returns are nothing more than average, at best.

I can think of two main reasons that I would want to own real property versus a REIT:

1.) Tax benefits - I would likely receive much more in terms of tax benefits than I otherwise would without investing in real property. I'm currently in a 28% federal bracket. Taxes will likely go up. My W-2 income will likely continue going up. I could definitely use the tax break.

2.) Leverage - As many have already said, I can put 20% down and control 100% of a property. That's pretty incredible.

I can think of several reasons why I'd want to invest in a REIT instead:

1.) Truly Passive - No tenants, termites, and toilets to deal with. No destroyed property to repair. No maintenance bills to pay. No property management company to oversee.

2.) Decent Returns - Although dividend yields can change at any time, the REITs I've been looking at recently seem to hover around 7% yield. While that's not fantastic by any means, it's just the dividend yield; there's also potential capital appreciation (which, many on here would probably say is the same as speculation on appreciation of real property).

3.) Exposure to Certain Types of Property - As someone has already stated, you can invest in certain types of real estate through certain REITs that you may not be able to afford to invest in directly. Student housing and NNN were mentioned already. There's also retail, office buildings, etc.

4.) Diversification of Risk - Many will argue that they have more control with direct real estate investing locally. There's definitely truth to that, however, there are also factors outside of one's control. By investing in a REIT, I get diversification over numerous properties instead of just one.

Another obvious answer is that I can, and likely will, invest in both. REITs for the reasons stated above and real property for the tax benefits and leverage. Is there anyone that believes it's all or nothing? I know many will lean towards real property and NOT REITs, but taking a look at my skill set and personality type and comparing myself to the 50+ guest investors on the Podcasts, there are just certain things I do not want to deal with. I feel like a REIT gives me a way to invest in real estate without many of the typical headaches. I'm okay sacrificing a little return to have something that's totally hands-off and passive.

Any input, advice, and opinions are appreciated as I continue to try to formulate my thoughts. Thanks in advance, everyone!

 I'm with you!

Post: REIT Recommendations?

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  • Vancouver, WA
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Originally posted by @Brett Wehn:

I have traded REITs for many years and have done well with some of the investments. I like the exposure to institutional quality real estate (shopping centers and large apartment buildings) with the liquidity offered by publicly traded companies. Most REITs own specfic types of properties such as land, retail, multi-family, office, and industrial. I don't own any REITs right now because of my concern with buying stocks when the overall market is at an all time high. I'm a bit of a market timer. I watch the market carefully and intend to dive back in when the market corrects. You can build a nice steady stream of income from REIT dividends. Some companies like Realty Income (ticker symbol "O") even pay a monthly dividend. One of the best indicators of market direction is VNQ (as suggested by RyanA). It's also probably one of your safest bets as it holds virtually all publicly traded REIT's in the US. Pays a fair dividend too. Do your homework and learn the fundamentals. I watch for excessive debt levels and check debt ratings (available from Standard and Poors). One of the largest publicly traded REITs, General Growth Properties filed for bankruptcy protection in 2008 when shopping center vacancies soared and the company was unable to service their debt.

 Great advice thank you so much!

Post: New Member for Seattle

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Originally posted by @Bo Park:

@Daniel Ryu Hi Daniel,

Please read my comment. The tag didn't work through typing. 

Post: New Member for Seattle

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  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 16
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@Bo Park

@Daniel Ryu

Daniel I'd love to know how you got started while not being physically in the States. I've considered buying and immediately handing over to a property manager. Seems possible but scary for a first investment.