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All Forum Posts by: Jerry Agbon

Jerry Agbon has started 2 posts and replied 38 times.

Post: Owner portal features in property management platforms

Jerry Agbon
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Posted
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 17

@Rob K. - Thank you, this sounds like the perfect solution. I'll discuss it with my PM. 
Very Much appreciated!

Post: Owner portal features in property management platforms

Jerry Agbon
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  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 17
Originally posted by @Filipe Pereira:

Hi @Jerry Agbon- @Drew Sygit and @Anna Sagatelova make some great points. I operate a property management firm in CT and we don't have a "live feed" of information for the property owners. Sure, we may have lost a couple of bids because of that, but overall we just didn't find it worth it to offer. I'd love to be able to offer every single bit of technology to our customers, but 99% of our clients have us managing buildings that are 4 units and under, so there is really a limited amount of information that could be viewed anyway. 

I think there's a place for live data - especially in managing larger complexes where things can fluctuate significantly. In our business, if we see something is going to significantly alter the amount of the check we typically send to clients at the end of the month, we get on a call/text/email and let them know ahead of time. I agree with you that having everything always accessible is fantastic, but I think being proactive as described above is a good "second place" approach, if you will.

Let's say that your PM did have a 100% live portal, but didn't input every bill that came in right as they came in - would that be a problem? We only do accounting 2x a month. When rents come in for the month, and when accounts are closed out at the end. There's a good chance that from the 10th to the 25th there would be no activity, then there would be a flurry of activity from the 25th to the 10th. I think technology begins to hurt us at that point, and forces us to become less efficient. The most efficient way to do accounting is batch processing, not dribs and drabs. 

 Thanks for your insightful comment. However, I do have some hesitancy fully agreeing with some of your premise. You seem to assumption that live data = frequent continues updating by the PM, perhaps some landlords might misconstrued it to be so, I would think the PM should inform them of our best to us it, and the frequency or interval of updates  should remain the same as long as they keeps a good workflow going.

I do agree with you that for SF this might not be relevant, but for those of us with multiple MF properties it is of great relevance to be able to have access to this data for analysis and insight into how the various properties are doing. It's even become more relevant as we've planned on adding more MF properties, I would think it will make life easier for our PM and us as well. They don't need to increase their update frequency, rather the availability of the live data for analytic purpose is the key. Remember it is just a tool, the usefulness of the tool depends on the user.

Post: Owner portal features in property management platforms

Jerry Agbon
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Posted
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 17
Originally posted by @Sri Ram:

I use rent manager which has better features than appfolio. I have compared both.

 Getting them to switch will be a big undertaking. I'll look into that, and add it to my suggested platform list if/when they are planning to switch. Thanks for the suggestion.

Post: Owner portal features in property management platforms

Jerry Agbon
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  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 17
Originally posted by @Todd Rasmussen:

@Jerry Agbon

We just got turned onto Stessa. I think it'll give you what you are looking for. They will link to your appfolio portal and upload transactions automatically, but it has an overview where it calculates some of the metrics you might be looking for.

Thanks for the suggestion, I 've not heard of this software before. Will definitely take a look at them. 

Post: Owner portal features in property management platforms

Jerry Agbon
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  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 17
Originally posted by @Anna Sagatelova:

@Drew Sygit with Appfolio, unfortunately there is no live-reporting option for the owner portal; it's not a company setting. Otherwise, you make excellent points. We find that although many owners wish for a live-reporting feature, we don't think it would actually make them any happier once that becomes available - they will just have more reasons to panic unnecessarily.

One thing that is annoying is the AppFolio statements have a "remit balance" line at the bottom. Well, we send a monthly statement on the 10th of the month (for the previous calendar month, so on or by May 10, our clients received the April 2020 statement). By the time the owner gets the statement on May 10, most of those figures are out of date as tenants paid rent on or around the 1st of the month. We have owners who get their statement and immediately send the $400 or whatever the "remit balance" line says, which is unnecessary since rents have come in.

What software are you using, and what are your biggest pain points with it?

For clients, I'd say that if a PM can work efficiently and effectively within the software they are using, that is FAR more important than the owner portal features you want to see; a PM with good systems is not going to switch their core software, and there are plenty of subpar PMs who use great software with poor results. 

Thanks for the feedback! 100% in agreement with your conclusion; that having a PM that is efficient within their current software is more important... Indeed, great software do not necessarily translate into a great PM.  

Post: Owner portal features in property management platforms

Jerry Agbon
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Posted
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 17
Originally posted by @Drew Sygit:

@Jerry Agbon - it probably isn't the product Appfolio, it's more likely what your PM has set it up for owners to see.

Suggest you contact them with your specific list of what you would like to see and ask how they can make it available. 

Just know this going in - PM's often don't like making too much information available to owners! Why? Because it just leads to more panic phone calls that require more time to explain. I't seven more "fun" when an owner client asks the same questions every month, because they don't bother to take notes or take the time to understand the information. While any company wants to make each customer feel like they are their only client, the reality is there is a limited amount of resources you can commit to a client before you start losing money on them.

BTW - if your PM is doing such a great job, why are you worried about "live" data? 

Thanks for your feed back, and sorry for my delayed response. While you've given me a bit of an insight into how some PM operates, I doubt if my PM actually operates with that mindset, I believe they're truly unable to provide me with those live data due to AppFolio limitations. I know this because they've tried but could not, they even confirm this with the platform developers. Now, in regards to the practice of restricting the data being shown because you as a PM is concern that the owner might get worried because of the data readings, calling you in panic and wasting your time. While this might be true of some owners, I would think this to be untrue of the majority of owners. It is a business, to run your business successfully you need data, to have a valid, relevant actionable point of discussion when interacting with your PM you need data, and live data makes for better transparency, this builds more trust which leads to stronger relationship, and better synergy in making strategic and tactical business moves that are beneficial to both parties.

The fact that I asked this question, does not imply I'm worried that my PM is not doing a great job. It is not a "me vs them" game. I will not do business with a PM that exhibit such mindset. We work as a team, and live data could make this run even smoother, which means less call from me. 

Post: Owner portal features in property management platforms

Jerry Agbon
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Posted
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 17

We own multiple properties, and we use a property management company that does a fantastic job at maintaining this properties, our assigned manager is very responsive, and very well adapt at handling the tenants and any problem that might arise. We've been very pleased with them so far. However, there remains a point of pain. The property management platform they use seems very robust on the management side, but the owner portal seems like an after thought.

That platform they use is Appfolio, while I've read great reviews about Appfolio, the owner portal seems very underdeveloped and not well thought out, this lives a lot to be desired. No live data of any sort to show properties performance, other than the PDFs at the end of month reports uploaded by management company.

I'll be curious to know what experience others are having with the owner portal used by their management company?
Listing some of the features made available to you would be great.

Thanks in advance for your input!

Post: Has anyone used Stacksource.com?

Jerry Agbon
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Posted
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 17

Hi Greg, I used them last year to fund the purchase of my 36 unit apartment complex. Stating from my personal experience; they are very hands on, since they are web based, I wasn't sure of what to expect, but I was pleasantly surprised to see how hands on my assigned loan officer was.

He called me after I've filed out the initial application form, wanting to know more about what I'm actually looking for, the conversation was laid back, but very helpful to me, and he was always a phone call away if I have any question. Andrew was also my assigned loan officer. Looking back now at the situation I was in then, and the complexity of my loan type, I'm glad I had him to help walk me through the process.

If you don't mind paying the 1% flat fee they charge at closing, I'll recommend giving them a try.  Does the quality of service they provide warrants the 1% fee? To that I'll say a resounding Yes!

Hope this helps. I wish you the best in your venture. 

Post: Life isn’t going back to normal anytime soon is Real Estate?

Jerry Agbon
Pro Member
Posted
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 17

Worst things than covid-19 have happened before, and life always goes back to normal. Nature always balances itself no mater what. The problem with covid-19 is not the virus pandemic, but rather the fear pandemic, the hyper fear mongery  being continuously, and persistently broadcast by most (if not all) news outlets. Yes, do the normal things you would do to avoid contracting the common flu and you'll be fine. the level of fear very from town to town, and I'm convince that at the end, this palpable fear the airwaves have been flooded with would've done more damage than covid-19 is capable of.

Post: What will be the impact of the Coronavirus crisis on real estate?

Jerry Agbon
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Posted
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 17

If historical observation is to be logically followed, my projection is that this corona virus will go they way of its predecessors like the sars, swine flu, zika etc. The fear factor it generates will definitely have an impact on the general market, just as it is having on the stock market right now. However, the dust shall soon settle, and common sense will prevail again.

The real-estate market will be negligibly affected, in the states that are most reactive to this scare, while other states that are more measured and objective in handling it, will experience no negative impact at all, rather they might experience a positive impact from the fed lowering of interest rate.