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All Forum Posts by: Jeremy England

Jeremy England has started 20 posts and replied 261 times.

Post: Pensacola comps and good buy and hold areas

Jeremy EnglandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 139
Originally posted by @Tony Crabtree:

thanks @Jeremy England 

As far as comps go, I'm feeling apprehensive to pull the trigger on BRRRR deals just because of wanting to FOR SURE know what the ARV will be for properties. I just would think that relying on any kind of zillow or realtor.com research might not be the best thing to rely on.

For instance we're looking at a home at $45k near the base right now, knowing we'll have to add in around $7k for rewiring (this is a big deal in Pensacola I think right?). If we rent it out, I want to make sure we get as close to an all in of 75% of that appraised value after all the work is done. 

Basically what I'm wondering is, how do you look at off market properties with a good estimate of what that ARV will be?

We love the idea of Pensacola for the inexpensive real estate, steady cash flow from military families, and all of that. You saying that is even more reaffirming of what we were thinking. We are from the Nashville area where finding a "1%" deal is next to impossible.

 Youre right about not relying on just a zillow search, but you can easily get sufficient comps by viewing teh properties that actually sold within a specified area and do comps that way.  Don't rely on zestimate, but get the recently sold from zillow, filter to last 90 days.  Then do some math.  

Add/subjtract for condition, bathrooms, bedrooms, size differences etc

You can usually get a pretty close estimate yourself on comps.  

Once you have what the ARV is then you can begin subtracting costs. Dont forget financing costs, closing costs, prepaids, etc etc

Roofing costs are VERY high right now.  Like twice as much as they were 10 years ago.  

Unless you ahve the time and money to direct market to sellers, I'd say get some relationships with some wholesalers.  

I bought one from a wholesaler recently, he wanted x, i wanted y, we settled on a price.  It was more in his favor than mine, and I spent a little more on the project than i anticipated because of roofing costs and a couple surprises.  But I am getting 1pct of rents and when I refi it will be a true brrrr deal.  I m currently awaiting seasoning req to be up in feb

Post: Pensacola comps and good buy and hold areas

Jeremy EnglandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 139

What's troubling you with comps?  

I actually prefer rentals near the bases.  Far west side of town.  Steady flow of tenants, all with regular paychecks and clean backgrounds.  

Let me know if i can help you out.  I'm not a realtor, but an investor myself

Post: Brrr 6 months seasoning

Jeremy EnglandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 139

Depends.

If you bought cash, you can get delayed financing but only up to the amount you paid in to purchaes the property plus closing or 75% LTV, WHICHEVER IS LESS No rehab costs will be included in the loan.

That's fannie mae guidelines

Or you can get a commercial loan, but proabably only up to 70% LTV, 20 year amoritization, 5 year baloon. So your cashflows are because its on a 20 year vs a 30 year

Or, another poster has recommended this: Get a loan from your LLC to buy the property, then you can refinance immediately conventionally. Just do a search for seasoning and you'll see the process. I'm not 100pc on it.

Post: Do I have to wait for 6 month seasoning before refi?

Jeremy EnglandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 139

I would look for a private lender.  Givem 6-8pct.  Someone would probably be glad to lend 41k at that rate out of an SDIRA.  Plus its alot easier

Hey matt, I'm with the consensus.  The totality of the circumstance would dicate.  High score, high references, high bank balance, probably good to go.

I would probably require double deposit from those folks though.  

Post: My step by step BRRRR

Jeremy EnglandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 139
Originally posted by @Lesley Resnick:
Originally posted by @Tonya Presley:

Congrats Lesley,

I am new to BP and have been trying to read more about the BRRRR process. Please help me with a couple of basic questions...how long do you have to wait before you are able to refinance and pull cash out? Also, your goal of 20k for reno... how did you reach that number and would you use your own cash for that or use some form of a loan?

Thanks

1. The refi hold term will depend. You will need to check with the lenders. If you are using any conventional product it will be a 6 moth seasoning. Many portfolio loans will remove the seasoning if you bought the property with cash and can demonstrate that you have materially improved the property. With hat said if you paid cash and just want to get your purchase price out then, you have more options, but that is not really a BRRR,

2. I did this backwards, more for explanation purposes. I took my ARV and reduced it by 25% for the future loan and arrived at a 20k budget. My estimate is back of the napkin and could be completely off. Given the spread between my purchase and ARV, I will end up in a fine spot. My contractor is going to the house next week. I do not need a roof, but will need A/C and a kitchen, often the most expensive pieces.

3.  Cash is king, when making purchases, reno is fine for credit.  I actually have a lowes/Home depot card that offer no interest on purchase of 300 and up.  Materials will come from a big box retailer.  Labor will be on a credit card, since most vendors want to get paid online.  The appliances will most likely be used and will be paid in cash.    

Ahh i see, you did a commercial loan.  So let me ask you, what kind of terms did they offer.  20 years at 6% or ?

Post: My step by step BRRRR

Jeremy EnglandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 139

Good for you taking action

I'm not sure about that lender telling you there will be no seasoning.  I paid cash, and paid for the reno.  Got hit with a seasoning req

The only option earlier was delayed financing which will be limited to what you paid for the property plus closing costs, OR 75% whichever one is LESS.  

Meaning if you paid 30k, then paid 4k in closing.  You can only refi for 34k until the seasoning period is over

Post: A financing strategy question for BRRRR

Jeremy EnglandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 139

Its not as straight forward as you think.  If you buy cash, then all you can refi for is the purchase price and the closing cost.  The cash you used to rehab comes out of your pocket and you do not get that back on the refi.  

If you purchase with a HML then the bank won't refi you out til after seasoning. Thse are with traditional 30 years mortgages

If you get a commercial 15 yr or 20 yr mtg then the rules are different and you can refi out quicker.  

Now to answer your question, you probably CAN refi out of a traditional mortgag but the question is can you afford it.  

Origination fees, points, prepaids, etc  

sounds costly

Post: Rentometer or something better?

Jeremy EnglandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 139

I wouldn't subscribe.  You can get better info for free.  If you are looking for accurate rents then just look at zillow and other sites for homes in the area that are listed for rent.  

I know if I had relied on rentometer alone I would be undercharging rents by like 25%

Post: Brrrr! Is refinancing easier when you buy cash?

Jeremy EnglandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 139
Originally posted by @Will Parker:

@Devin Scott I recently spoke with @Andrew Postell about this topic. He has a great post about how you can refinance quicker. Essentially, you loan yourself cash from an LLC you created at a 0% interest rate. You can then refinance that loan to a conventional or portfolio loan at the ARV. Check out his post. It's an interesting strategy. https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/48/topics/460...

 That sounds a little shady.  If it is legal, I'm not sure how long it will be.