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All Forum Posts by: Jennie Berger

Jennie Berger has started 15 posts and replied 238 times.

Post: Newbie Property Developer - Seeking Guidance

Jennie BergerPosted
  • Developer
  • Chicago IL
  • Posts 247
  • Votes 171

Hey @Kenneth Jiang - Welcome to the game! I'll provide my two cents on your questions above--please bear in mind this is a complex topic, and there are no black and white responses. If you'd like to chat about anything further feel free to DM me and we can set up a call. 

1. Finding the Right Deal: How do you all evaluate properties for development in Chicago? Any tips or tools to help a newbie like me spot a good opportunity? 

We start with the end product in mind. What do we want to build? Then, we look for properties that can accommodate that type of structure AND are supported by the ARVs in the neighborhoods in which we are searching. We are able to estimate construction costs roughly based on previous builds. We'll then build a spec sheet (templates we have created that are always evolving the more we learn) and then insert all of our numbers into our deal analysis. This deal analysis factors in everything from purchase price and buying costs, to holding costs, construction costs, and selling fees plus hold times. Finding good opportunities for new construction in Chicago is possible, though you'll need to work a little harder in your search and due diligence than if you were to simply rehab a hundred+ year old bungalow. Hundred plus year old homes are everywhere. Land and tear downs on properly zoned land are far and few between. Starting with a great Realtor to help you on this search can be invaluable until you learn more about how to search for the 'right' type of land for what you want to build yourself.

2. Hiring Help: I'm at a bit of a crossroads. When it comes to contractors, should I go with a General Contractor and a fixed contract or consider a Construction Management company? What are your thoughts and experiences with these choices? 

How much time do you have and how in the weeds do you like to get LOL? Since you mentioned you're new to the development world, I would strongly recommend hiring a General Contractor (GC) (at the very least) to build. If you have no previous design and planning experience, I would also recommend considering a design-build firm that can offer both design and planning assistance AND construction. You can always hire a designer separately from your GC as well. Architects can provide a fair amount of guidance on how to create the foundation of a design for your property. But they are architects, rarely designers. They are also not 'home buyers', so when you design something from scratch to SELL, you'll need to keep in mind who your end buyer is, what the comps look like, how much you're planning to sell for, etc. That--in large part--will dictate your design. 

3. Materials Matter: I'm curious about sourcing materials. Should I take on the task myself, or is it better to let the pros handle it? Any shortcuts or tech that's made your lives easier? 

Again, how much time do you have on your hands? Sourcing and ordering materials is extremely time consuming. Then, after sourcing and ordering, you have to setup and manage the delivery. I'm making it sound a lot simpler than it is, I know. The pros of ordering your own (finish) materials are you will save some money (maybe, depending on your supplier list and what types of discounts they offer you) and likely have a lot more flexibility to choose what you want, as opposed to getting a few options presented by a GC. The biggest drawback / con is paying a premium for your GC to source all the materials--they'll charge a markup on these since they now have to navigate the whole process above. There's a nice blended option you can try, where subcontractors will supply all rough materials, and we (we are licensed GCs now but prior to being GCs we were rehabbers who hired a GC) supply all the finish materials.  The easiest, most streamlined way IMO is to let your GC handle as much of the process as possible, rather than piecemealing it out. This way everything stays on the 'same' schedule. ie: your GC isn't waiting for your materials to arrive because you ordered them too late...

4. Global Sourcing: I've heard whispers about sourcing materials overseas for a better deal. Did anyone try this? Is there any tool that makes global sourcing easy? 

Some of the materials we order come from overseas. We do not order directly from these manufacturers however, we always go through a US based sales rep. I do not recommend going directly overseas unless you have a contact in that country, or you've lived there, or are familiar with it and/or the language. The money you *may save could end up causing you more time and frustration than it's worth.

SUMMARY: For your first new project, hire it out! I realize it may be tough to make numbers work nowadays, and that's probably why you're tempted to take on the role of contractor to some degree. Working with an experienced team will provide you with a lot of insight and learning opportunities that you can then take with you to Project #2...

    Post: ADT Home Security

    Jennie BergerPosted
    • Developer
    • Chicago IL
    • Posts 247
    • Votes 171
    Quote from @Eudith Vacio:

    Hey @Brandon Victor 👋🏼

    Why ADT versus something like simply safe? 🧐 asking for a friend 😃

     I would definitely try Simply Safe on my next property. My experience with ADT customer service was (to put it kindly) abhorrent.

    Post: Private Money Notes ~ template, best practices, resources?

    Jennie BergerPosted
    • Developer
    • Chicago IL
    • Posts 247
    • Votes 171

    @Hey @Mike Costello!

    In addition to the suggestions above, you might consider asking your PML (friend / colleague) if he/she has their own template or paperwork that they prefer as well. I have spoken with some private money lenders in the past who have had their attorneys draft up these documents for them. Then you can always run it by your attorney for good measure. Good luck!

    Jennie Berger

    Post: Looking for Contractor Referral for Two-Flat or Multi-Family Unit

    Jennie BergerPosted
    • Developer
    • Chicago IL
    • Posts 247
    • Votes 171

    Hi @Anthony H. Our company specializes in new construction of single family homes and small multi unit buildings in the city. If we can be of help in any way, happy to connect with you. Prashanth and Jonathan are both wonderful as well. :) Best of luck with your projects!

    Jennie Berger

    Property People

    Post: Multi-Family Unit Demolition Costs (Chicago)

    Jennie BergerPosted
    • Developer
    • Chicago IL
    • Posts 247
    • Votes 171

    I'm in agreement with @Jonathan Klemm's ballpark estimate. Sounds like you have exciting 'possible' plans (or visions at this point? :) for new construction @Anthony H. If we can be helpful in any way, please feel free to reach out directly!

    Jennie Berger

    Property People

    Post: House Not Selling

    Jennie BergerPosted
    • Developer
    • Chicago IL
    • Posts 247
    • Votes 171
    Quote from @Marisa JManker:

    Thank you and she says she didn’t need to stage and yes the house has professional pictures and thank you for the positive feedback.

    I'd agree with staging. We have only not staged one house in almost 4 years, and it was a new construction SFH we sold before it was completed to buyers who had previously walked through one of our other new construction homes (that their friends bought a few months prior). AND interest rates were below 3%. Literally every single other property we have ever rehabbed or built gets staged.

    Staging, in conjunction with a (most likely necessary) significant price drop to account for the missing basement (which seems to be on the top of almost every Chicago and surrounding area buyers wish list)--and perhaps consider a new Realtor (not sure when your contract expires but if she's telling you to price this way, and advising against staging, I'd be wary)--should do the trick.

    In the meantime, some deep breaths and patience will help get you through. Dig deep. I know the angst you feel that the property isn't under contract yet. It feels like FOREVER! You'll get through this, with lots of lessons learned, and maybe even make some money (I hope!), and move onto your next project with a boat load of insight you didn't have before.

    Good luck Marisa!

    Jennie Berger

    Property People

    Post: 10-Unit Multi-Family Building Next to Elementary School in Lawndale, Chicago, IL

    Jennie BergerPosted
    • Developer
    • Chicago IL
    • Posts 247
    • Votes 171

    Good luck @Jodi Taylor! (Just read through the thread and noticed Jonathan (colleague) chiming in so thought I'd say hi and wish you well on this deal. :)  

    Kind Regards,

    Jennie Berger

    Property People

    Post: Out-of-state rental properties

    Jennie BergerPosted
    • Developer
    • Chicago IL
    • Posts 247
    • Votes 171

    Wherever you choose to invest...Walk the land yourself. Lesson learned the HARD way. I have boots on the ground out of state where I invest (Live in Chicago, invest in rentals in East TN) and that still ended up being unreliable. I will NEVER purchase another property WITHOUT walking the land myself. 

    Managing from out of state is a different story. I have a lot of resources in East TN because I lived there for 10 years. I have great cleaning people and handymen and Realtors (now, not before, lol) whom I trust to look after certain things. Remember: You can always switch up your team. But getting out of a property you bought site unseen can be more difficult...

    If you're looking to invest out of state, I recommend choosing a location you are familiar with for one reason or another. Maybe you have some good friends there, or you've lived there before, or visited several times. Something. As opposed to picking one randomly from a hat because it appears to give better cash flow.

    Jennie Berger

    Property People

    Quote from @Jarell McGrew:

    @Jennie Berger With MTR's being your strategy of choice, you definitely seem like an expert. Out of curiosity, are there specific niche's you're targeting with the MTRs (travel nurses specifically)? Also, are you looking at properties mainly around hospitals, near the local airports, or do you have a general area you're looking for your MTR's to be? 

    I live in LA but would like to build a OOS portfolio. As I'm originally from IL I'd like to try building it here. Thank you!

     My demographic is a mixture of travel medical professionals, relocating families, college / grad students, and business travelers. My properties are 3 beds 2 baths mainly and within 20 minutes of a major university and several major hospitals as well as 3 miles to Downtown.  I invest currently in Chicago (where I live), Knoxville TN (where I lived for 10 years), and Jacksonville FL (where I see huge growth potential).

    Post: Winnetka, IL New Construction Cost Per Square Foot

    Jennie BergerPosted
    • Developer
    • Chicago IL
    • Posts 247
    • Votes 171
    Quote from @Kenneth Lester:
    Quote from @Jennie Berger:

    Hey Kamil-

    We are mid-way through a new construction project near Ravenswood Manor. Medium-high end but nothing like Winnetka so take this with a grain of salt. Our finishes are very nice but I wouldn't say high end. The house is about 3600 SF and we are around $135/SF. *Note that we are also working on a gut rehab right next door and hired the same GC for both projects, so we were able to get a 'discount' price for each. We are also GCs so we oversee everything and purchase all of our own finishes and fixtures. Good luck and please let me know if we can be of any further help!


     Hi Jenny any ballpark cost per sqft for those new construction triplex all through Chicago areas I’m assuming $160 sqft

    Today, we are seeing new construction costs between $165-$220/SF, depending on finishes.