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All Forum Posts by: Jennifer Handlin

Jennifer Handlin has started 6 posts and replied 17 times.

Post: The Pain $ of Not Knowing - Contract For Deeds

Jennifer HandlinPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • paw paw, MI
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 5

Wow folks! The word is DO NOT...touch on the street. It seems like a good deal. Hard to pass up! 10k a house is hard to find in Southwestern Michigan now a days.

Couple questions on the comments made.

DoddFrank...is there a number out there that's a safe zone for LC written? 3 every 12 months? Is there another way to structure a deal that makes it look different? LC though a IRA? Send a LC though a broker?

Can this deal be fixed? I would need to do quite title maybe costing 2k plus rewrite the LC or a Note with a DOT? Would that have issues with the DoddFrank laws?

What I don't understand is why can't investors make (fair)loans to those that can't get a mortgage though a bank? If its an honest deal, and with in reason, then there is a place here to invest. How do you do it safely?

My lawyer suggested that I will still have liability with the house if someone gets hurt, or the house is not to code. How is this possible?

For those with much more knowledge than me... point out some books, classes, websites to help me digest all this.

THANK YOU bloggers!!! BiggerPockets has been an overwhelming supply of information over the years! I'm thankful its here! When is the next conference!?

Post: The Pain $ of Not Knowing - Contract For Deeds

Jennifer HandlinPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • paw paw, MI
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 5

I'm buying two land contracts in place. What would the steps be needed to do my due diligence on ensuring the contracts are correct. Can I rewrite the LC once I own them? Same terms in place? How does the owner transfer the note or land contract to me? Is preliminary title work enough to close on? The sellers want to do a quick claim deed to me. (They can't provide title insurance) homes were purchased in Michigan at a tax foreclosure  (which does clear the title of any history of $ due) but in Michigan you usually have to do quiet title to get it insurEd. 

Looking for correct sales agreement 

And contract that moves the note into my company name.

Help! 

Post: Buying land contracts in place, need help w/contracts & due dili

Jennifer HandlinPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • paw paw, MI
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 5

Also one of the lc has back taxes owed. I never write them without adding in taxes and insurance. Seller says it's the lc responsibly to pay those taxes. Looks like I'm going to be on the hook.

Post: Buying land contracts in place, need help w/contracts & due dili

Jennifer HandlinPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • paw paw, MI
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 5

Purchasing 2 LC in place. Numbers are good but want to understand what I need in place before I sign the sales agreement of what I need from the sellers along with do I rewrite the land contracts?  Sellers want to close in front of a notary with no closing costs...there giving me a quick claim deed only. I'm pulling preliminary title work. I'm not a new investor but this is my first note purchase. Thanks!

Post: Selling your flip without a real estate agent.

Jennifer HandlinPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • paw paw, MI
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 5

I have done the flat fee listing also! 300$ and I'm saving 3% off the top. I have had NO trouble with it. Listed 5 so far... the buyer agent does most of the work. Works for me!

Originally posted by Jeff Barnes:
If you decide to use any IRA, then you will be subject to UBIT if you are active in your dealings with real estate. In any retirement account, you must ensure that you are truly a passive investor, but the IRS specifically calls out the Unrelated Business Income Tax (UBIT) for IRAs.

Definitely make sure you understand the UBIT before you start trying to use your IRA for investment purposes in your active investments, however. See IRS publications 590 (IRA info( and 598 (esp. Section 1) for UBIT info.

Jeff

What is the definition[b] of "ACTIVE in real estate? Is there an IRS definition of that? I do not have a license, buy 3-6 properties a year, sell 2-4.

Also how are people passive when they buy and hold rentals? yes they may not fix the leak, but when it comes to advertising and renting out a house... how is that NO active?? Seems like so many people are involved in rentals and do just that.

Post: Self directed "checkbook" LLC IRA

Jennifer HandlinPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • paw paw, MI
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 5

Steven

So even if I flip properties part time(about 4-5 bought a year and 3 sold a year) and have rentals I am not considered active player in my IRA investment? (of course I won't do the work, but what about managing a project is that considered "sweet equity")

Thanks... seems like there is so many different opinions on this topic

Post: Self directed "checkbook" LLC IRA

Jennifer HandlinPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • paw paw, MI
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 5

[u]Just found this... more confused now.

Are the gains or income taxable from IRA real estate investments?

This is a frequently asked question. The answer is NO - in most cases.

If an IRA buys investment real estate and then sells it at a profit, all income generated while it was held in the IRA and all the gains resulting from sale WILL be either tax-deferred (regular IRA) or possibly tax-free (Roth IRA), IF the purchases were all cash with IRA funds.

If the IRA borrows to finance the purchases, any income and capital gain that is attributable to debt-financing will be subject to taxation. So, for example, if an IRA puts 50% down on a rental property and that property generates $10,000 net income after expenses per year, the IRA will be taxed on 50% of the net income (the amount financed) less the first $1,000 which is tax exempt, or $4,000 (e.g., 50% x $10,000 = $5,000, less the $1,000 exemption = $4,000). The tax is charged at the Trust tax rate schedule because an IRA is considered a Trust for the purpose of tax. The tax applied is called Unrelated Debt Financed Income tax or UDFI tax.

Similarly, when the property is sold, the IRA will have to pay capital gains tax on any gain that was debt-financed. For example, if the same property was sold two years after purchase for a $100,000 profit, 50% (assuming there had not been any reduction in the debt) of the gain, or $50,000, would be subject to tax at a rate of 15% (the current long term capital gain rate). This results in a tax of $7,500. The remaining $92,500 would go back to the IRA tax-deferred. The IRA would also have to pay UDFI tax on any income on the property in the year of sale. Finally, if the debt had been reduced through principal payments on the loan, then the amount of UDFI and capital gains tax would be calculated based on the average indebtedness over the twelve months prior to the sale. If all the debt had been paid off one year prior to the sale, there would be no capital gains or UDFI at the time of sale.

Are you saying that if I buy income-producing or other real estate using all cash and sell it for profit, that I never pay any tax?

No. If you buy real estate, stocks, mutual funds, etc. with a traditional IRA, without incurring debt to the IRA, all the profit and income flows through to the IRA tax-DEFERRED. You can buy and sell property for twenty years or more in an IRA without paying either capital gains or income tax, provided that the investments are not debt-financed. If some or all of the investments are debt-financed you will pay UDFI tax on the amount of income and capital gains that were generated using debt. But assuming, for simplicity's sake, that you buy 100 acres in Wyoming with cash and sell it 10 years later for a $400,000 gain after the [b]debt has been retired for at least twelve months, all of the proceeds would go back into the IRA tax deferred for the next investment.

You can continue to do this until you either voluntarily decide to take withdrawals from your IRA (penalty-free after age 59 ½), or until you are required to at age 70 ½. Once you begin to withdraw funds or assets from your IRA, you are taxed at current ordinary income tax rates on the fair market value of what you withdraw. If you withdraw $25,000 in cash, you have to add $25,000 to your taxable income as reported on your 1040 in the year of the withdrawal. If you withdraw 100 acres in Wyoming in one distribution (as opposed to fractionalizing the distribution over a number of years to reduce the one-time tax hit), you will have to have the property appraised and the value will be reported by the custodian as a taxable distribution on your 1099.

Post: Home Depot and Lowes discounts

Jennifer HandlinPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • paw paw, MI
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 5

Seems, your GC needs some negotiating skills, you dont even need to negotiate to get 10% through the qsp bid room, at lowes for any order over 2,500.

Im not a very good negotiator and We get 18-22% on any orders over 2,500 from lowes.

Paint you can do better, and the starting price isnt inflated like sherwin williams.

WHOM would you talk to about a lump discount. I find myself buying materials as needed over a month rehab project. 22% is a good discount. I have found they work well with appliances...online price matching!

jen

I have been doing a lot of reading on all the options on self directed IRA investing. There is SO much out there... and everyone seems to be saying different things.

I want to pick the right vehicle to move $$ into my retirement.

Currently have a SIMPLE IRA with 100K to invest in flips/rentals.

My current ( side job :) is Flips and rentals! Been active with both.

Would like to buy the next flip as a retirement investment.

HERE IS THE OPTIONS OUT THERE:

1) Self directed IRA with companies like Equity trust. From what I gather it could cost more, slower option for recovering money(ie Ernst $, closing $, paying contractors), and harder to handle for a flip.

2) SDIRA checkbooks. Not sure which company is a good option here( suggestions please) Are these safe?? Insured? Sounds like a easy way to write checks, but need to manage my involvement, and not sure the steps to get into one and out of one once your done with that type of investing.

3) SDIRA checkbook LLC Okay... not sure if its truly a "check book option" but it seems to have its benefits with low yearly investments with account holder. Can't find info on fees or many companies that offer this.
[b]
[u]My concerns or needs.

*I would want to GM a rehab project. Is there one better suited for this. Can I do this??

*I read that a flip in an IRA is TAXED 35% is this true for all the vehicles? There is a nice post of this, but it seems silly. If you know how to make money flipping why be penalized for building your retirement.

*Is there the option to move some of the $$ out of the self directed account and into a brokerage mutual fund account in the future to diversify.

*I've read that checkbook IRS are dangerous... may not be legal?

* I'm not a fan of having a fee for each check. If I'm rehabbing a house I'm writing many checks. Also how do you pay for materials if your not using a checkbook product?? It would be nice to have a debit card for those transactions.

Any feed back would be HELPFUL!

I am also planning on flipping a house for my mother and or a rental house.

I am familiar with needing to create distance, but at what point to you stop assisting in your investment? is directing OKAY?